inquiry Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 As south, playing with an unknown "expert" pickup partner you hear the following auction... [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sq84hak64d9cajt86]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - - 1♣ 5♦ 5♥ 5♠ Pass Pass Dbl Pass Pass Pass You may (or maynot) agree with the auction, but now it is your lead. What do you lead at trick one? Is it really so simple? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I dunno about the bidding, I'm glad I wasn't there to suffer the pressure :). would just lead ♥A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 H4, hope to score 1H and 2 club if partner return club. unless opps void in heart, which is highly possible, then i would regret i didn't lead C6. SHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I don't like the low heart nor low club. I lead a small spade as that is most likely to throw away a trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMetsch Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 ♣A, I don't know if we have a ♥ trick, but it won't go away. Maybe DBL is some sort of Lightner for a club ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 A of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 put me in with the A♣ gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 If this was not posted on BBO forums I would lead a top heart (probably like most of the people). But as it is posted here, its 100 % to be the wrong lead :) Tough bidding problem from your point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Since I never supported H, the dbl does not imply that a H lead is contra-indicated. Since Pard is expecting to lose 2 tricks opposite my typical opening hand, he has a flaw that made bidding-on unpalatable. Since the D bidder is likely to hold K(and probably)Q of ♣, I vote for pard to hold something like ♠Axx♥QJxxxxxx♦Kx♣- and I will plunk down the ♣ ace and get him his ruffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 If this was not posted on BBO forums I would lead a top heart (probably like most of the people). But as it is posted here, its 100 % to be the wrong lead :P Tough bidding problem from your point of view. Agree. Declarer might ruff H lead, and discard C losers on D (after 2 rounds of trumps). So, I would lead ♣A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingo Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 It is hard to answer without knowing if we were in a forcing pass situation. The vul. suggests maybe not. But i am not clear. It is not without some trepidation, but I would play the ♣ Ace. I think a spade is the only other option - Partner cannot be asking for a heart lead. Unless, of course, this is merely a "i think we can beat this pard" double. Then any lead might work and none might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I'd lead the ♦9. It seems pretty likely that a heart lead would just get ruffed, giving up a tempo. Club ace could be right, but there's no particular reason to think partner has singleton club in this auction (in fact it sounds like double fits all around after this bidding). For a trump lead to work, you pretty much need partner to have diamond cards, in which case a diamond lead probably also works. And it's not unlikely for RHO to take an early spade finesse into me (it was partner who doubled, after all), allowing me to underlead the heart ace-king for a diamond ruff later in the hand. I don't really see where the round suit tricks (if any) are going if I don't lead them -- I have diamonds locked up via the ruff, and a likely trump trick. If we need to cash out our aces and kings, we can probably do that after I win the ♠Q anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 the 5♥ bid showed a hand that has club support and wants a heart lead if the opps get the bid.. imo :rolleyes: i'd lead ♥A, i think a club lead is getting ruffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Agree with you, Justin ! As it is posted here, ♥ace must be wrong and we have to find something wilder ! :unsure: Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Did I misread the auction? Why am I defending 5Sx? I abstain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Did I misread the auction? Why am I defending 5Sx?To show trust in partner's double? Anyway, I lead the D9. Partner's double is not necessarily suggesting a diamond lead, but at least there should be a tollerance for it. What I aim is to cut communications to dummy's diamonds before trumps are drawn. If partner is singleton, declarer can't discard his outside losers immediately. If partner is doubleton, I pray he has DKx. If partner has 3 diamonds dummy could be without an outside entry. Petko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 It's a bit worrying that I seem to be on a completely different page to everyone else. I'm not defending to "show faith in partner's double" because I bid 6H over 5S.I don't think partner's 5H bid shows a club fit, I think it shows hearts.I don't think partner's double is unusual, or suggests a diamond lead, or... I think it's just a statement that it's our hand. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if partner had, say, xQJ10xxxxAxxKx possibly with the Ace of spades as well. (yes, I know we might have two spade losers. Difficult game.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 It's a bit worrying that I seem to be on a completely different page to everyone else. I'm not defending to "show faith in partner's double" because I bid 6H over 5S.I don't think partner's 5H bid shows a club fit, I think it shows hearts.I don't think partner's double is unusual, or suggests a diamond lead, or... I think it's just a statement that it's our hand. Thanks Frances. What game am I playing if I am not allowed to raise with AKxx of support and a singleton value? If partner cannot double for penalties if opponents have guessed in a weird auction at the 5 level? Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 TY2. Partner has made a free 5-level bid. We have AKxx support, A of our bid suit, 3 cards in one of their suits and singleton in the other. 7H is more likely to make than not making 6H. Passing 5S is timid, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Actually it will hardly matter, but its possible than small ♥ is better than the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Why are were defending? Lead a small diamond. maybe get ruff and/or suit pref. from P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Brutal, Ben. Seems LHO has 8, 9 diamonds - spots left for 4/5 unknows.RHO must hold similar spades - again 4/5 unknown cards. Assuming relative sanity of all parties, East can see the vulnerability as well as I can, so he must be bidding as a make/no worse than 1-down option, and pard must have shape and decent values. Who might not have his bid? What kind of hand makes sense for the east bid?AKJ10xxxxxKxxx Pretty frisky. AKJ10xxxvoidJ(x)Kxx(x)? More like it, but what does that leave for pard? xx, QJ10xxxx, Ax(x), Q(x)? Does everyone now have their bids? It appears so. If I have this right, I need to lead a diamond, either getting a ruff or disrupting declarer's communications. I'm going to lead the 9 of diamonds, preparing suitable apologies if RHO pitches his losing heart on the A of diamonds. WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 lolololol r.e.: "assuming relative sanity of all parties"..... Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take? Of course you are right; we are, after all, talking of bridge players here. :D WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Isn't that a rather presumptuous if not a totally unrealistic position to take? Of course you are right; we are, after all, talking of bridge players here. :lol: WinstonM I assumed that the "relative" meant relative to other bridge players, in which case it is quite alright. Relative compared to the rest of the population is a deep postion to take, however. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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