shanbari Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dealer: East Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ ♥ xxx ♦ QJ8xx ♣ KTxxx N E S W---2C P 2D3H 3S ? RHO opened strong 2C, and 2D is normal waiting bid.you partner jump in 3H, what do you do after RHO's 3S, SHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 4H. Any other vul and I would do more :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 What is 3♥ ? 8 tricks, 9 tricks ? I suppose it is more based on tricks than on HCP ? What would be 2♥ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 What is 3♥ ? 8 tricks, 9 tricks ? I suppose it is more based on tricks than on HCP ? What would be 2♥ ? there's a lot to say about 3H, but it's not simple as opening 3H. you are in the position to figure it out. partner is certainly not novice, he knows what he should do. SHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Whoops... post deleted since I misread the auction.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 AS I understand it, partner bid 3H and LHO bid 3S (presumably showing a good hand, since he passed first time). In which case 3H is setting trumps, so I'll cue 4C (my cheapest control) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 (edited) oops - deleting Edited June 9, 2005 by PriorKnowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 oh rofl, i misread too...thought that pard preempted 3H. ok then... if partner opened 2C........ lol Nice, I bid 4C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wow I missread it too, was wondering why didn't I bid 2NT :P. 4♦ to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted June 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 bidding goes: RHO started the 2c bid, i passed, and LHO bid 2D, partner jump in 3H, RHO continued 3S, what now with my hand ? SHAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ahhh those evil Ben and Justin misslead me, I had read it right at first. Pass, and I would had overcalled 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 huh..so I did have it right...ok im officially on crack...back to 4H then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civill Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Pass,3 level is enough for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I misread too ! :unsure: 4♥ seems OK : partner must have a good suit and if he has a little something in one minor, we have a play or we will not go down too much. Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=shxxxdqj8xxcktxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] as i see, some choose 4h, some 4D, or pass... whatever you choose, bidding is certainly not over yet due to the vulnerability, we are red against White. most of time opps would outbid our 4h. i am south holding above hand. N E S W - 2C P 2D3H 3S 4x 4S P P ? here comes the second question, do you still bid on or not ?or you may feel that you want to bid enough in first place to avoid the second decision? (i choosed 4H bid at table, then i face the second bidding issue again as i expected.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 If you bid 4H, never bid 5H If you would like to bid 5H in this situation, bid it directly (not such a bad idea I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 4H is clear cut. I have one sure trick for partner, the spade ruff, and thereis still some additional money on the bank, to compensate any possible friskiness of partners 3H bid. If 4S comes back to me, I pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I'd bid 4♠ over 3♠. I've seen a few too many "psychic" 2♣ openers, on hands like: AKQJxxxxxxxxx I'd expect opener to have something like this, or maybe with one outside card. We could easily be on for 5♥ or even 6♥ on this auction, but it's very difficult to bid constructively over the strong 2♣ opening. Even if partner's just preempting, partner shouldn't be messing around at these colors. I have a void, three card support, and a few cards that partner may not be suspecting. It wouldn't surprise me at all for us to make 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge2k Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Bid 4H and Pass later. Bidding 4H is not preempt as ops already bid out spade. Beside, we are in red so I should be seriously thinking that 4H could be played, either by my shape or value or both. Since I've already passed the above information, I have no more to talk with this hand. I am void in spade so pd has more spade so he should take more responsibilty to judge this hand. He knew more than you in the table and he chose pass. So, repect his decision, whatever right or wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 4 hearts, might as well support. The issue is, we're not buying this hand at 4 hearts. Interesting question: would 3NT show minors with heart support? Most would probably say that 3NT is to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 pass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 :) I would bid five hearts in an effort to force the opponents to make the last guess. Partner knows the vulnerability, full well, but she does not know my hand is worth, except in the very worst of luck, two tricks to her - possibly more. Partner's bid shows seven tricks in hand, I have two more (at least). Why is this hand considered a bidding problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 4♥ - I want to take away LHO's 4 level cue bid. 5♥ is a close 2nd. I don't want to overstate one minor over another, so I'm not making any kind of fit bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 I'd bid a direct 5♥ and no doubt have it go for 800. 4♠ seems too likely to let the opps judge whether to bid 5♠ or not, by the presence/absence of a double on my left. I don't mind a 4♥ bid now, though, so long as you pass later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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