nullve Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Instant MP tournament. [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s?]133|200[/hv] What goes through your mind at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 The thing(s) that goes through my mind are (in order):Why bid 2♣ in an instant tourney with a partner that may not understand your bidding?I hate bidding 2♣ with humans because they always do this stuff - especially in an instant tourneyI bet East was a robot4 ♥: West probably has 5332 and east probably has 3343North probably has a very weak handI should pass People do disruptive stuff much more in Instant tourneys because of the time pressure it puts ops under. I do the same thing myself in 5 minute Chess where it's much more effective because if they run out of time, they lose.So my next thought is:I should stop playing Bridge like a Chess player. One thing I always do in instant tourneys is to look quickly at each profile to see what kind of bids they are likely to understand.I have bid the unusual 4NT with a pick-up partner but would not do it in an 'instant'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s?]133|200|Nullve 'Instant MP tournament. What goes through your mind at this point?++++++++++++++++++++1. It would be easier had you opened 1♦.2. But 2♣ is perfectly reasonable.3. Now you can double (T/O) and convert partner's 4♣ to 4♦. [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 The thing(s) that goes through my mind are (in order):Why bid 2♣ in an instant tourney with a partner that may not understand your bidding?I hate bidding 2♣ with humans because they always do this stuff - especially in an instant tourneyI bet East was a robot4 ♥: West probably has 5332 and east probably has 3343North probably has a very weak handI should pass1. I was planning to rebid 2N. (3♦ is just suicide.)2.,3. Instant tournaments on BBO are robot tournaments.4., 5. :)6. I'm not sure what your advanced(?) robot partner would do then, but when I uploaded the deal to a teaching table and passed 3♠ as South, my basic robot partner passed, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s?]133|200|Nullve 'Instant MP tournament. What goes through your mind at this point?++++++++++++++++++++1. It would be easier had you opened 1♦.2. But 2♣ is perfectly reasonable.3. Now you can double (T/O) and convert partner's 4♣ to 4♦. [/hv]1.,2. I would have opened 1♦ with a human 2/1 partner unless we had special agreements like 2♣(strong)-2♦(waiting); 3♥ = GF, 4H5+D 3. If you double, [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3sxp6cp?]133|200|[/hv] 6♣ = "5+ ♣; 5+ total points" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 If you double ... [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3sxp6c(5+ !C 5+ Total points)p?]133|200|Bitter experience mandates a pass, now :(unless you fancy Gib's chances in 7♣ :) [/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1. I was planning to rebid 2N. (3♦ is just suicide.)2.,3. Instant tournaments on BBO are robot tournaments.4., 5. :)6. I'm not sure what your advanced(?) robot partner would do then, but when I uploaded the deal to a teaching table and passed 3♠ as South, my basic robot partner passed, too. My mistake. I thought you meant the 30s per decision free tournaments.These tournaments are contaminated by actual people. Mind you I'm still having trouble understanding the constant cavilling and complaining about inconsistent robots. I sometimes wonder if the people kvetching querulously about robots spend any time playing with people at and below my standard.Amongst the totality of bridge players, I'm probably somewhere in the middle.I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to play with me as a partner - even on a desert island - unless you really enjoy alliteration and bad jokes. I've only ever tried the weekly free - it seemed pointless because you can play the hands over and over again until you get it 'right'. I suppose this explains why they aren't listed on the competitive menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 3. If you double, [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3sxp6cp?]133|200|[/hv] 6♣ = "5+ ♣; 5+ total points" I should add that if you were playing with a basic robot instead, then [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3sxp4hp?]133|200|[/hv] 4♥ = "4+ ♥". :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 How would you rate them using the same terminology generally applied to players on BBO. (The answer is not idiots )As Advanced, although I'm not sure a BBO robot, whether basic or advanced, is "someone who has been consistently successful in clubs and minor tournaments". :) Maybe it's time to reveal that I didn't start this thread because of anything stupid GiB did. Does [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s?]133|200[/hv]remind you (the reader) of anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Pass is probably OK, as "dbl and correct clubs to diamonds" doesn't work with robots. 4♦ is also possible but we won't find hearts, then, even if partner has five of them. As for not opening 2♣ with a human: I think the robots are quite human in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 4♦ is also possible but we won't find hearts, then, even if partner has five of them.If you choose to bid 4♦: [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s4dp4hp?]133|200[/hv] 4♥ = "4+ ♥; 5+ total points" :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Does [hv=pc=n&s=s6hakjtdakq765ca2&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2c2sp3s?]133|200[/hv]remind you (the reader) of anything?It reminded me of a certain infamous deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 It reminded me of a certain infamous deal.I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :)Ok. :) https://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/40621-good-bid/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :)Presumably the famous hand where a pro player jumped to 6D on a four-card suit in a mostly blind auction, rather than bidding their long suit. Of course, 6D was the only making slam. I'm not bidding 6H here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I'm not bidding 6H here though.I couldn't resist: [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|nullve,~~M9390j48,~~M9463uwj,~~M1050972|md|1S6HAKJTDAKQ765CA2,SAKQJ85H43DT98CQ8,S9742HQ762D3C9764,ST3H985DJ42CKJT53|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%207|mb|2C|an|Strong%20two%20club%20--%2019+%20HCP;%2023+%20total%20points;%20forcing%20to%202N|mb|2S|an|twice%20rebiddable%20!S;%209+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|3S|an|3+%20!S;%207-14%20total%20points%20|mb|6H|an|strong%20rebiddable%20!H;%2032+%20total%20points|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|SK|pc|S2|pc|S3|pc|S6|pc|H4|pc|H2|pc|H5|pc|HK|pc|HA|pc|H3|pc|H6|pc|H8|pc|HT|pc|S5|pc|HQ|pc|H9|pc|D3|pc|D2|pc|DA|pc|D8|pc|DK|pc|D9|pc|C4|pc|D4|pc|DQ|pc|DT|pc|C6|pc|DJ|pc|D7|pc|S8|pc|C7|pc|C3|pc|D6|pc|C8|pc|S4|pc|C5|pc|D5|pc|CQ|pc|S7|pc|ST|pc|CA|pc|SA|pc|C9|pc|CK|pc|C2|pc|SJ|pc|H7|pc|CT|pc|S9|pc|CJ|pc|HJ|pc|SQ|]400|300[/hv] Good bridge (e.g. double) wasn't rewarded this time. At one table: [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|South,~~M51153,~~M51151,~~M51152|md|1S6HAKJTDAKQ765CA2,SAKQJ85H43DT98CQ8,S9742HQ762D3C9764,ST3H985DJ42CKJT53|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%207|mb|2C|an|Strong%20two%20club%20--%2019+%20HCP;%2023+%20total%20po|mb|2S|an|twice%20rebiddable%20!S;%209+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|3S|an|3+%20!S;%207-14%20total%20points%20|mb|D|an|Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20!C;%203+%20!D;%203+%20!H;%202|mb|P|mb|6C|an|5+%20!C;%205+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|6D|an|3+%20!C;%203+%20!H;%202-%20!S;%20biddable%20!D;%2027+%20to|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|SK|pc|S2|pc|S3|pc|S6|pc|H3|pc|HQ|pc|H5|pc|HT|pc|D3|pc|D4|pc|DA|pc|D9|pc|DK|pc|DT|pc|C4|pc|D2|pc|DQ|pc|D8|pc|C6|pc|DJ|pc|HA|pc|H4|pc|H2|pc|H8|pc|HK|pc|S5|pc|H6|pc|H9|pc|HJ|pc|C8|pc|H7|pc|C3|pc|D7|pc|S8|pc|C7|pc|C5|pc|D6|pc|CQ|pc|S4|pc|ST|pc|D5|pc|SA|pc|S7|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|SJ|pc|C9|pc|CT|pc|C2|pc|SQ|pc|S9|pc|CJ|]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Robot Rebate 55 %Board 12 of 1252.7 % so far [hv=pc=n&s=saq84hadakj63ck54&d=w&v=n&b=5&a=3hp5h?]133|200[/hv]5♥ = "3+ ♥; 7- HCP" Edit (after sfi posted): Your choices are: P = "No suitable call --"X = "2+ ♥"5♠ = "Overcall -- 5+ ♠; 17+ total points"5N: undefined6♣ = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ♣; 32+ total points"6♦ = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ♦; 32+ total points"6♥ = "Strong two suiter -- 2- losers"6♠ = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ♠; 32+ total points"6NT = 33-34 HCP"7♣ = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ♣; 35+ total points"6♦ = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ♦; 35+ total points"6♥ = "Strong two suiter -- 1- losers"6♠ = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ♠; 35+ total points"6NT = 36+ HCP; 35+ total points" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted February 12, 2021 Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 Robot Rebate 55 %Board 12 of 1252.7 % so farYou're enjoying this, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2021 You're enjoying this, aren't you?Yes, but see Edit of my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeigh Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=st||pn|South,~~M51153,~~M51151,~~M51152|md|1S6HAKJTDAKQ765CA2,SAKQJ85H43DT98CQ8,S9742HQ762D3C9764,ST3H985DJ42CKJT53|sv|b|rh||ah|Board%207|mb|2C|an|Strong%20two%20club%20--%2019+%20HCP;%2023+%20total%20po|mb|2S|an|twice%20rebiddable%20!S;%209+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|3S|an|3+%20!S;%207-14%20total%20points%20|mb|D|an|Takeout%20double%20--%203+%20!C;%203+%20!D;%203+%20!H;%202|mb|P|mb|6C|an|5+%20!C;%205+%20total%20points%20|mb|P|mb|6D|an|3+%20!C;%203+%20!H;%202-%20!S;%20biddable%20!D;%2027+%20to|mb|P|mb|P|mb|P|pc|SK|pc|S2|pc|S3|pc|S6|pc|H3|pc|HQ|pc|H5|pc|HT|pc|D3|pc|D4|pc|DA|pc|D9|pc|DK|pc|DT|pc|C4|pc|D2|pc|DQ|pc|D8|pc|C6|pc|DJ|pc|HA|pc|H4|pc|H2|pc|H8|pc|HK|pc|S5|pc|H6|pc|H9|pc|HJ|pc|C8|pc|H7|pc|C3|pc|D7|pc|S8|pc|C7|pc|C5|pc|D6|pc|CQ|pc|S4|pc|ST|pc|D5|pc|SA|pc|S7|pc|CK|pc|CA|pc|SJ|pc|C9|pc|CT|pc|C2|pc|SQ|pc|S9|pc|CJ|]400|300[/hv] Declarer's lucky robot didn't re-correct to 7 clubs. Or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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