maris oren Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 What is the most acceptable response to partner's 2 C opening bid? I learnt one way and my partner another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo1201 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 I guess it depends a lot on what 2C means. Precision? Strong but non GF? GF? Weak with D or strong-ish? I passed a strong non-GF 2C with J 7th C and out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 What is the most acceptable response to partner's 2 C opening bid?2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas43 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Assuming 2C is strong and artificial, there are several possible schemes of responses. This is what I was brought up with and would assume to be in use if I sat down opposite a partner for a casual game:2D is negative 0-7 (and over 2C-2D-2H/S 2NT is a second negative, showing a terrible hand)Any other suit bid is 8+ hcp and natural, should be a reasonable suit2NT is a scruffy flattish 8-10 With my regular partner I play 2D as more of a relay and a very good quality suit is required for a positive (roughly AKJ1098) Control showing responses also used to be fashionable The Kokish convention by opener is also popular these days (2C-2D-2H is a relay) But there isn't really a "right" answer, just agree something and go with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 What is the most acceptable response to partner's 2 C opening bid? I learnt one way and my partner another Where you are makes a difference too. Some play a 2♥ response as an absolute bust with 2♦ guaranteeing something, for others 2♦ is the weakest bid. It used to be a thing that you responded artificially with how many controls you have, but few if any do that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 2♦ I will agree with nullve. That seems to be the most common. However, with a regular partner agree the whole approach and what continuations and rebids mean, as the initial response depends on that. I am in the group that prefers 2♦ to deny holding whatever values you ascribe to 2♥, or other bids if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 7NT, but only if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyQuest Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 7NT, but only if it works. Or better, PASS (but only when it works). ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 What is the most acceptable response to partner's 2 C opening bid? I learnt one way and my partner another After partner's strong 2♣ opener, John Matheson recommends control responses 2♦ = ART. A king or less.2♥ = ART. 2 controls (A or KK).2♠ = ART. 3 controls (AK).2N = ART. 3 controls (KKK)3♣ = 4 controls. But without detailed discussion, you might try ..2♦ = REL. Catch all.2♥/2♠/3♣/3♦ = NAT good 6+ card suit2N = BAL 9+ HCP with tenaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morecharac Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 What is the most acceptable response to partner's 2 C opening bid? I learnt one way and my partner anotherWho can adjust more easily to the other's way of playing it? If you're playing Standard American (the plug-and-play of systems) or one of its offshoots: For beginners, I'd recommend 2♦ waiting because that allows auctions similar to 1-level openers and has the friendliest learning curve. I'd add the double negative response as something beginners should use from the very start, even though I didn't learn it. After a 2♣ opener:2♦ = waiting bid, not stopping below game (some play it only forcing one round)2♥ = total bust hand (0-2 HCP or so), opener rebids whatever contract they want to play in 2♠ = natural ♠ bid, whatever partnership has agreed is required2NT = natural ♥ bid, whatever partnership has agreed is requiredFairly intuitive and easy to remember. With non-beginners, I've lost track of how many different response systems I've seen used by SA players. 2♦ waiting is most common, controls (aces and kings) and HCP showing up often enough that I'm not surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 One of my partners likes: 2♦ = 0-5 hcp & 0-1 control2♥ = 6+ hcp & 0-1 control2♠ = 2 controls2NT = 3 controls (3 Kings)3♣ = 3 controls (A+K)3♦ = 4 controls, etc. Not enough hands yet to decide upon usefulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 My personal favorite set of responses is as follows... 2♦: basically waiting, but promises an A or K2♥: As above, but denies an A or K. Not necessarily a bust, could in theory be as strong as QJx QJx QJx QJxx or similar. The point is it denies a quick trick, which often lets opener rule out slam immediately. If we do end up exploring, responders cuebids are now unambiguously shortness.2NT: 3 kings and at least semi-balanced. I'm not a fan of control responses in general, but I like this one, because it will very often rightside 3N/6N.Other bids: Natural, good suit. Minimum being something like AKTxx or KQTxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 But without detailed discussion, you might try ..2♦ = REL. Catch all.2♥/2♠/3♣/3♦ = NAT good 6+ card suit2N = BAL 9+ HCP with tenaces. I slightly prefer:2♦ = REL. Catch all.2♥/2♠ = NAT good 5+ card suit3♣/3♦ = NAT good 6+ card suit2N = minors 5-5 Never saw any sense in a natural 2NT death reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 From Romex, but usable in a SA or 2/1 context: 2♦: 0-1 control (A=2, K=1)2♥: 2 controls2♠: 3 controls2NT: 4 controls3♣: 5+ controls3♦: weak two bid in hearts, 6 hearts and about 4-6 points, GF3♥: weak two bid in spades, 6 spades and about 4-6 points, GF There's more, but this is enough for now. :-) Note: a 2♣ opener usually ought to have at least six controls (there are twelve controls in the deck). Also, the 2♥ and higher bids are forcing to game. It should be no surprise to hear that 2♣-2♦-2NT can be passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 With neither a hand nor a system, "most acceptable" just has no meaning. If I open 1♣, what is the most acceptable response? Generally speaking, the most acceptable response is the one that best fits your hand given the system being used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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