What do you do ?

[HardVector]

I'm going to double. I expect this to be unpopular, but there are no really good answers here. I dislike pass, the hand is too good. I also dislike 3d, that is too unilateral and the suit is really not that great. I'm also not prepared to go up to 4c to show this hand. What I'm going to do is a takeout double. If partner bids spades...wait for it...I'm going to pass. This may be bad, yes, but ALL the option could be bad. The nice thing is if they get greedy and try to double 2s, now I can bid 2n to show the really good 2 suiter. If partner has to play in spades, then I have lots of strength to help and they may have 5+ cards there.

 

The next best bid, imo, is a simple pass, see what happens.

[Cyberyeti]

I'm going to double. I expect this to be unpopular, but there are no really good answers here. I dislike pass, the hand is too good. I also dislike 3d, that is too unilateral and the suit is really not that great. I'm also not prepared to go up to 4c to show this hand. What I'm going to do is a takeout double. If partner bids spades...wait for it...I'm going to pass. This may be bad, yes, but ALL the option could be bad. The nice thing is if they get greedy and try to double 2s, now I can bid 2n to show the really good 2 suiter. If partner has to play in spades, then I have lots of strength to help and they may have 5+ cards there.

 

The next best bid, imo, is a simple pass, see what happens.

 

If you double, the way we play lebensohl, partner bids 2N either intending to pass 3♣ or showing all the good hands (or hands with a heart stop rather than without).

 

This is another interesting decision, do you bid 3♣ when there's a very good chance of making 5 opposite some fairly minimal hands ?

[HardVector]

If you double, the way we play lebensohl, partner bids 2N either intending to pass 3♣ or showing all the good hands (or hands with a heart stop rather than without).

 

This is another interesting decision, do you bid 3♣ when there's a very good chance of making 5 opposite some fairly minimal hands ?

Considering I'm looking at 2 fast heart losers plus a possible uppercut position, I think I'll settle for the part score. If the auction gets that far without any bidding from the opps, it's likely that there are at most 2 hearts on your left. If hearts get raised, I'm going to get more excited.

[Cyberyeti]

Considering I'm looking at 2 fast heart losers plus a possible uppercut position, I think I'll settle for the part score. If the auction gets that far without any bidding from the opps, it's likely that there are at most 2 hearts on your left. If hearts get raised, I'm going to get more excited.

 

What actually happens is that partner depending on how optimistic he gets (he might just bid an initial 3♠ invitational) bids 2N-3♣-3♠ showing a game force with 5+ spades, what now ?

[Zelandakh]

I will be discussing this with my partner, our meta agreements suggest 3♦ would be forcing and 3♥ would be a good spade raise. I'm not sure what a delayed 2N does or should mean.

It obviously depends on the range of your protective calls but the logical place to start your discussion would be a Weak NT. If your protective calls make that unattractive, the next point of call should probably be a good raise, with the cue reverting to a general force.

[Cyberyeti]

It obviously depends on the range of your protective calls but the logical place to start your discussion would be a Weak NT. If your protective calls make that unattractive, the next point of call should probably be a good raise, with the cue reverting to a general force.

 

Weak NT was my first thought, which is why I was surprised to see 9-11 on Devidkok's reply, but was wondering whether it was better to put it to some artificial use.

[HardVector]

What actually happens is that partner depending on how optimistic he gets (he might just bid an initial 3♠ invitational) bids 2N-3♣-3♠ showing a game force with 5+ spades, what now ?

I'm committed to showing this as a takeout double, so I'm going to continue that. If partner makes a game forcing bid, I'll simply raise spades and hope my extra strength carries through. If they invite, you need to make a judgement call. If it's imps, I'll probably go to game.

 

This is not guaranteed to work. As I said earlier, there are no perfect solutions here. You make your bed then lie in it. I'm making the takeout double bed.

[Cyberyeti]

I'm committed to showing this as a takeout double, so I'm going to continue that. If partner makes a game forcing bid, I'll simply raise spades and hope my extra strength carries through. If they invite, you need to make a judgement call. If it's imps, I'll probably go to game.

 

This is not guaranteed to work. As I said earlier, there are no perfect solutions here. You make your bed then lie in it. I'm making the takeout double bed.

 

You make 4♠, you could have made 7♦, his hand as pointed out earlier, Kxxxx, AQx, Qxxxx, void.

[nudnikbp]

Three diamonds. Nothing else makes sense.