pigpenz Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 What is your opening lead against this slam? auction 1heart pass 2 clubs pass2hearts pass 4 hearts pass4NT pass 5 diamonds double6 heart pass pass pass Your lead please?? Your hand: ♠ KQXXX♥ J♦ QXXX♣ 10XX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 a hand would help :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted June 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 YOUR TOO QUICK I WASNT DONE EDITING IT, YET :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 i'll go back and read it later, but i do believe that in ewen's classic book on leads he says the only really good excuse for not leading the suit partner doubled is if you're void.. and that isn't likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 i'll go back and read it later, but i do believe that in ewen's classic book on leads he says the only really good excuse for not leading the suit partner doubled is if you're void.. and that isn't likely Even though P has doubled D's Jimmy goes out on a limb to lead a D so I will too.Those who lead spades have found good reasons to not play with partner anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 hehehe.. well it has the added advantage of letting you win the postmortem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 6, 2005 Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Depends on who's partners, with 95% of them ♦ is auto-led, but there are some who jsut make too much lead directing bids, some of them fake :blink:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearmum Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I'm leading Q♦ --- first rule is to TRUST partner -- he doubled for a D lead so lead on I will :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 My pards prefer me to think than to follow old maxims. But here's a few good reasons to lead a diamond. 1) My gut tells me that RHO isn't scared of a diamond lead, with a holding of say Axx. Therefore, its a good chance that Lho has that card, which might be a late entry to the clubs. Similarly, RHO isn't off 2 quick diamonds either. 2) If LHO has the AD, RHO probably has the AS. So, a spade might be into the teeth of an AJT or Axx (with the J in dummy) or AJ9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 small diamond. He Xed hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 J♥ with my reg p, x♦ with anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I want to know more about the auction. What kind of game is it, what is the vul? Could partner's double be save suggesting? Was 4♥ a picture jump? South rebid only 2♥ then forced to slam. What would 5♦ by south have been (instead of 4nt), exclusion or cue? Sounds like south is counting on 5/6 ♥ + 5♣, so we may need to cash to beat this. I am never leaving a trump or a club. It also sounds like we have a key card, so how best are we going to set up a trick? To mastermind with a spade lead might get you a new partner, but I certainly would consider it. It is hard to imagine a hand where partner doesn't have the diamond ACE and legnth, unless they are vul and we are not and he was suggesting a save. One can draw up hands where a spade lead is the only one that works. I guess I would lead a diamond, out of partnership harmony if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Partner doesn't usually make a lead-directing double off an ACE, as if you have a KQ and he has an ace, it's the KQ you want to lead. Partner is more likely to have the DK (possibly KJ) plus a keycard.I would lead a diamond, though I know a spade could be right. I assume 2H was forcing or the auction is insane? Depending on their bidding methods & the meaning of 5D, the hand could be something like: xxxKxxJxAQJxx AAQJ10xxAxxxxx (Why didn't declarer look for 7H? I don't know, perhaps 4H showed a minimum and he was worried about club losers) Now admittedly the hand could equally well be the same but with declarer's pointed suits the other way round, in which case a spade lead is right, but when I have fewer diamonds than spades it is more likely that we have a second round diamond trick than a second round spade trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Depends whether having the K♦ makes pard more likely to have diamond length Frances...should we ask David Burn? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 QD (in case my shy partner has AJx), tho xD has merit. Why bother having a partner if you don't trust his/her advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 My only question is " if you play a low D, will pard insert the J with Kx on the board? If not, then he has the D ace (the missing keycard) and leading the D Q could be a disaster. Obviously you want to lead the S K without the DBL, but while pard may not always be right, he is always your pard and his instructions are to be respected. The D sac at favorable vul. would also be a cogent option. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Question/ pardon my ignorance, but Why is partner hitting 5D for a lead with Ace of diamonds and out in that suit? The bidding suggests that declarer isn't very worried about diamond losers. KJTx is reasonable, as is AKxxx when declarer has a stiff. If the latter, and I lead the queen, I am on lead at trick 2 and might have a good idea what to lead then. As usual, my reasoning is probably demented but that's my thinking. I would also want to know if the opps play lho's bidding as a shape raise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted June 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 My only question is " if you play a low D, will pard insert the J with Kx on the board? If not, then he has the D ace (the missing keycard) and leading the D Q could be a disaster. Obviously you want to lead the S K without the DBL, but while pard may not always be right, he is always your pard and his instructions are to be respected. The D sac at favorable vul. would also be a cogent option. :) you hit the nail on the head! Will partner be brave enough now to insert the J♦ from ♦AJT98. So how firm are your agreements on what a small card lead is? Does it definitely promise an honor then no problem, But with an infrequent partner what do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 you hit the nail on the head! Will partner be brave enough now to insert the J♦ from ♦AJT98. So how firm are your agreements on what a small card lead is? Does it definitely promise an honor then no problem, But with an infrequent partner what do you do? Don't think it matters what my agreement is. If I double 5D blackwood, and partner leads a small diamond, it means he had one. If he has 532, he'll lead the 5, but he'll do that from Q765 as well (or D5 alone, or...) I said "lead a diamond, partner". He'll do that, even if he has to find one from another deck. If he has one to lead that bears some resemblance to a normal lead, that's a bonus. Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 ♦Q will help when both partner has ♦AJ, dummy has ♦K AND RHO is stupid. In all other lay outs it will only help to squeeze partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 3rd highest ♦, so hopefully partner can know I have ♦Q. Leading ♦Q is useless imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 I like the ♦Q lead. Reasoning as follows: Partner probably doesn't have JUST the ace or king of diamonds. If partner has the ace and jack or king and jack, my lead of the queen will clarify the position. If partner has AKxxx or the like, it is more likely that I can read partner's count signal than that he can read my length from the low diamond lead. Also, if one opponent has singleton diamond and partner has the AK (as seems fairly likely), I am more likely to find the right play at trick two. Finally, if someone is going to get squeezed on this hand, it is probably ME (holding the obvious spade guard). I really don't want to see a position where dummy has ♦Jx, and declarer has AT, as partner's diamond king play at trick one sets me up to be squeezed in the pointed suits. Leading a low diamond so as to "prevent partner from being squeezed" seems far-fetched, since I am guarding the spades and if partner guards diamonds AND another suit, the opponents have very little between them (and must find a way to run enough winners to squeeze partner without spade tricks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 arent all these reasonings great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 arent all these reasonings great! I dunno if they are great, ,but I would like to knw if they are right :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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