goffster Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 If there is a logical alternative, gib robots seem to Always believe the double.https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?bbo=y&lin=pn%7Cgoffster%2CRobot%2CRobot%2CRobot%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2SAK98HQ2DQJ83CQJ8%2CSQJ64HK4D954CAT96%2CS7532HJ873D62C732%2CSTHAT965DAKT7CK54%7Csv%7C0%7Cah%7CBoard%208%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7CTakeout%20double%20--%203-5%20%21C%3B%203-5%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-4%20%21S%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CFree%20bid%3B%20new%20suit%20--%204%2B%20%21S%3B%2011-%20HCP%3B%208-12%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7COpener%20two%20rebid%20--%203-%20%21C%3B%204%2B%20%21D%3B%205%2B%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2011-16%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CBalanced%20invite%20--%204-5%20%21S%3B%2010-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C3-%20%21C%3B%204%2B%20%21D%3B%205%2B%20%21H%3B%202-%20%21S%3B%2014-16%20HCP%3B%2018-%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CD%7Can%7C3-5%20%21C%3B%203-5%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-4%20%21S%3B%2012-20%20total%20points%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B%20%21H%3B%204-5%20%21S%3B%2010-11%20HCP%3B%2011-12%20total%20points%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cmb%7CP%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CCQ%7C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Repeat after me. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. The sooner you embrace this the sooner you will do better. All Xs are takeout through 7NT, and it doesn't understand X and Bid as a big offshape hand either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 TylerE - while that's true, what on earth does that have to do with this thread? :) Definitely interesting if it's true; I haven't dared double 3NT enough times to find out. Though I do recall once or twice doubling when I had a real double and they ran, so I could believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 Also, it isn't true. GB is fine with penalty doubles. Unfortunately, it's usually you that's the victim, but not always.North robot doubles West robot for penalties.I double the West robot for penalties and North leaves it. The robots are pretty fair about sticking to their system. The results aren't always optimal because the robots don't care about the talent pool they're in. They always assume they're playing at a particular standard. If you'll excuse the anthropomorphisation.btw apparently since 'robot' is derived from the Czech word Robota meaning slave, and the online community (according to a message I received from Mozilla yesterday) says that we should not use words like master/slave anymore, perhaps we should stick to GIB. Anyway, GIB is perfectly happy to double appropriately and inappropriately, for penalties and for other reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted October 19, 2020 Report Share Posted October 19, 2020 And sometimes it doubles for penalties without even realising it. - for 78% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goffster Posted October 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2020 Repeat after me. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. GIB does not understand penalty doubles. The sooner you embrace this the sooner you will do better. All Xs are takeout through 7NT, and it doesn't understand X and Bid as a big offshape hand either. I knew this. This is why I doubled *them* on the cold 3N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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