bearmum Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I too double ( NOT a GF though) --- I can't give up on finding a 4/4 Major -- and we will be OK in 4♣ if that's ALL P can bid :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Pre-empts sometimes work. Here I double although understrength. It will be wrong some of the time. I hope it will be right more of the time! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 But I'm finally beginning to see his reasoning; anytime he does something that doesn't pan out it is because "You didn't have your bid!" Be wary of people who think like that. Their main objective isn't to win but to exempt themselves of any guilt after a bad result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well here an example of what happened: [hv=n=skqxxhajxxdacaxxx&s=saxxxhq10xxdxcjxxx]133|200|1♣-3♦-X -ps4♦-ps-4[HE}-5♦ps-ps-X -ps5♥-ps-ps-ps[/hv] After the double your best brakes couldn't stop partner below the 5 level, and as the cards lied the 5 level was a bit too dangerous and scored 1 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 dont blame partner for not stopping :o Singleton opposite singleton is very tough, you've both evaluated up for it but it turns out youre mirrored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well, I do blame him. He has a routine pass over the double :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriorKnowledge Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 It is common for forcing pass followed by bid over dbl = mild slam try and strongest simple action. Certainly, with such a nice hand, opener would make that call. Responder is little lite, but made a competitive decision based on nice shape. Tough luck, no fault. Next time, you'll have Jxx KQxx xx KQxx, bid and make the difficult to find slam, and your table will be showered with gold coins from the spectators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I can't call it routine, but there is an argument for slowing it down. The North hand is a 5-loser hand and it pretty much requires cover cards in both clubs and hearts, and a fairly good concentration of them. Without room to investigate the precise nature of the holdings, it might be better to pass and take the sure plus than try for the speculative slam - and as this hand proves, partner can at times be under a lot of pressure to compete, so it isn't unwise to give him a little slack in this situation. WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Pass Ok I take back my take back :blink: Why did I doubt myself :). Maybe it was that 'Mirror' that Justin is talking about with his/her new avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I can't call it routine, but there is an argument for slowing it down. The North hand is a 5-loser hand and it pretty much requires cover cards in both clubs and hearts, and a fairly good concentration of them. Without room to investigate the precise nature of the holdings, it might be better to pass and take the sure plus than try for the speculative slam - and as this hand proves, partner can at times be under a lot of pressure to compete, so it isn't unwise to give him a little slack in this situation. WinstonM Remember you are vulnerable adn they aren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 i still think x was the right bid.. no 'right' bid will work every time, just as no 'wrong' bid will not work every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 8, 2005 Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Remember you are vulnerable adn they aren't Quite right, Fluffy, and that is why I said that "it wasn't routine". This is a very close and difficult decision and bid/pass either one could work out. All I'm saying is there is a tiny bit of room for slack this time because partner needs such seemingly concentrated values in not one but two suits and it is a pressure auction without the ability to find out. :lol: WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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