pilowsky Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 RONF it says on the GIB system notes - and it sure is annoying. This hand just came up at Matchpoints here is the bidding and the South hand. for 100% (only 2 other people playing in this tourney) what's your call?The opps and partner are GIB.[hv=pc=n&s=sj4hkq74dacaqjt72&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=3dp4d]133|200[/hv] Here's what I did and the result:[hv=pc=n&s=sj4hkq74dacaqjt72&w=skt6h8dkq98542c98&n=s7532haj52d7ck543&e=saq98ht963djt63c6&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=3dp4d4nppp]399|300[/hv]and here's the link.My bid was not alerted by GIB, I was expecting North to bid 5♣. I think that I've done this before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I would probably double intending to pull 4♠ to 5♣, in this case I play 4♥. You got slightly lucky in 3 ways: 1) 5♦ is only -12) 4N can be beaten3) on a non spade lead, you only can't make 12 tricks in hearts because they're 4-1 I'd probably bid 5♦ instead of 4 with the E hand, now what do you do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilowsky Posted September 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I would probably double intending to pull 4♠ to 5♣, in this case I play 4♥. You got slightly lucky in 3 ways: 1) 5♦ is only -12) 4N can be beaten3) on a non spade lead, you only can't make 12 tricks in hearts because they're 4-1 I'd probably bid 5♦ instead of 4 with the E hand, now what do you do ? Well, now it's a hypothetical question since that's not an action that GIB would take, and I've already seen the solution. If I was playing FTF I would do something different. I thought for a long time about doubling, GIB has a history of passing doubles even at the 2 level. About as trustworthy as a politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepossum Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 Pass or 5C. I can't decide unless I'm there at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I would probably double intending to pull 4♠ to 5♣, in this case I play 4♥. You got slightly lucky in 3 ways: 1) 5♦ is only -12) 4N can be beaten3) on a non spade lead, you only can't make 12 tricks in hearts because they're 4-1 I'd probably bid 5♦ instead of 4 with the E hand, now what do you do ? If hearts are 3-2, how do you make 12 tricks on a non-spade lead? There are 11 top tricks, I can't see a ruff anywhere because there are not enough spade discards on the clubs. There is no squeeze on, both opponents can hold on to two spades. Where is the 12th trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 If hearts are 3-2, how do you make 12 tricks on a non-spade lead? There are 11 top tricks, I can't see a ruff anywhere because there are not enough spade discards on the clubs. There is no squeeze on, both opponents can hold on to two spades. Where is the 12th trick? Sorry, you are correct, when I see a 10 in a long suit I tend to see it as 2 cards on the hand viewer hence thought there were 3 discards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 [hv=pc=n&s=sj4hkq74dacaqjt72&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=3dp4d]133|200| Pilowsky "The opps and partner are GIB. RONF it says on the GIB system notes - and it sure is annoying. This hand just came up at Matchpoints. Here is the bidding and the South hand. For 100% (only 2 other people playing in this tourney) what's your call?++++++++++++++++++++I rank ...1. Double = T/O -- and then, over 4♠, 5♣ -- as CyberYeti suggests.2. 5♣ = NAT "Put your faith in the long suit".3. 4♥ = NAT And get some practice playing 4-2 fits :)4. 4NT = ART 2 suited. But length disparity is too great. 5. Pass = NAT Ultra timid. "It's a bidders' game".[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sir,I shall bid 5C with a little tremor.It means pushing them to a makable 5D perhaps .Passing is a bit timid.Doubling is atrocious. I shall not elaborate more on that aspect.This is my answer as to what I shall bid on the table.I am not used to imagining what partner can hold.I make my natural bid.The way we play it a double shows major suiters hand.A bid of 5♣ over 4♠ response is a cue bid AND NOT A LONG suit.Does not cover all but neither does any other bid/bids which covers all combinations.THANKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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