diana_eva Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) EDIT: Registrations closed. The Tournament is posted in COMPETITIVE -> Free Tournaments. Look for the BBO Forums Challenge KO. You can click to play it, everyone who voted is pre-registered. It will be very quick for this first attempt: Day 1 - Monday. Qualifiers. Field gets reduced to 8Day 2 - Tuesday. Quarterfinals.Day 3 - Wednesday. Semifinals.Day 4. Tursday. Finals. 12 boards, IMPs, not best hand. Good luck! -------------------- Hi all, We're experimenting with a new tournament format, which consists in a series of chained challenges, where losers are knocked out. It's supposed to run as a series, over several days or weeks, and reduce the field until there is only one winner. Wanna help us test it? We'd like to restrict it only to BBFers for start until we sort out the format and possible bugs. Please vote in this thread to let us know if you want to play. Registration closes on Sunday, midnight US Eastern. First tourney will be posted on Monday and last just a few days, maybe 3 or 4. We don't know yet, might depend on how many players register. Thanks,Diana Edited September 21, 2020 by diana_eva added daylong details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Sorry, I deleted previous poll and posted again. It was not set correctly. Someone had voted to play, not sure who. Please vote again, this time I will also see who you are :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyfung2 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Interests to join if proceed. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Sure, sign me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 I voted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrice Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I can help ... for the first round ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I can help ... for the first round ... If you play very bad you won't catch the second one :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I assume this is a teams-of-four event? Would be interested in playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy4hoop Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I voted yes. I prefer non best hand but understand if that cannot happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Do you have an estimate of the expected time (or number of boards) commitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrice Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 If you play very bad you won't catch the second one :) That's what I'm expecting ... not that I'm going anywhere ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I assume this is a teams-of-four event? Would be interested in playing. It's some sort of an individual, not teams. You join, play with 3 robots and get compared randomly with another player. A bit like the Arena Challenges, but you keep playing until you get eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Do you have an estimate of the expected time (or number of boards) commitment? I'm thinking to make it 12 boards per day so that it's not very random. And have a total of 3 or 4 days for this first attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 IMO, a (crude) Swiss event would be interesting ....You specify, in advance, the form of scoring (e.g. MPs), number of boards in a challenge (say 12); and the number of rounds in the event (depending roughly on the number of competitors).In the 1st round, you play a challenge against a random competitor.In each subsequent round, you are allocated a different opponent, who has roughly the same number of wins.The winner is the player who wins the most matches. Ties are broken by MP score.Advantages:Everybody gets lots of games. Nobody is knocked out.The winner is less dependant on chance.Placings are more meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 IMO, a (crude) Swiss event would be interesting ....You specify, in advance, the form of scoring (e.g. MPs), number of boards in a challenge (say 12); and the number of rounds in the event (depending roughly on the number of competitors).In the 1st round, you play a challenge against a random competitor.In each subsequent round you are allocated a different opponent, who has roughly the same number of wins.The winner is the player who wins the most matches. Ties are broken by MP score.Advantages:Everybody gets lots of games. Nobody is knocked out.The winner is less dependant on chance.Placings are more meaningful. True, but right now we have a KO elimination movement to test :) We'll keep coding other fun tourneys and formats of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 True, but right now we have a KO elimination movement to test :)OK :) Fair enough :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Old Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 If you are planning a simple KO over 4 days the most you can accommodate is 16 players, unless you run several simultaneous brackets. Or do you plan to take one winner from a group of three for the first two days (36 players), or one winner from a group of four for the first two days (64 players)? The last two days in each case being head to head. Just kidding, since I assume that you will run several brackets. But, since you're coding this from scratch, do you plan to group players in a bracket by skill (and if so, how do you plan to determine each player's level), or will players be grouped randomly? Personally, I'd prefer to see even an imperfect attempt at a ranking system. If this idea becomes a regular feature on BBO, perhaps a player's results in these Challenges can be recorded and used for seeding in future events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 If you are planning a simple KO over 4 days the most you can accommodate is 16 players, unless you run several simultaneous brackets. Or do you plan to take one winner from a group of three for the first two days (36 players), or one winner from a group of four for the first two days (64 players)? The last two days in each case being head to head. Just kidding, since I assume that you will run several brackets. But, since you're coding this from scratch, do you plan to group players in a bracket by skill (and if so, how do you plan to determine each player's level), or will players be grouped randomly? Personally, I'd prefer to see even an imperfect attempt at a ranking system. If this idea becomes a regular feature on BBO, perhaps a player's results in these Challenges can be recorded and used for seeding in future events. This is not a teams event... Play an Arena Challenge to see what one round will be like. Also we aren't doing it from scratch it's already coded, we're testing and preparing to launch it. There can probably be improvements but for start we need to see how one goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Old Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 This is not a teams event... Play an Arena Challenge to see what one round will be like. Also we aren't doing it from scratch it's already coded, we're testing and preparing to launch it. There can probably be improvements but for start we need to see how one goes. I may be suffering from dementia, but I'm not stupid. I know what an Arena Challenge is. Just how do you plan to reduce 38 players (currently) to one in a head to head KO format in 4 rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I may be suffering from dementia, but I'm not stupid. I know what an Arena Challenge is. Just how do you plan to reduce 38 players (currently) to one in a head to head KO format in 4 rounds? I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I wanted to clarify before you grab your three enthusiastic team mates, that's all... Didn't mean to offend you sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Old Posted September 18, 2020 Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'm sorry, I misunderstood. I wanted to clarify before you grab your three enthusiastic team mates, that's all... Didn't mean to offend you sorry. Forgive me for my rudeness. No offense taken. I am, however, interested in the format. Will there be multiple brackets or some other means of reducing the field to one? Or do you just plan to play 3 or 4 rounds to fine tune your coding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diana_eva Posted September 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2020 Forgive me for my rudeness. No offense taken. I am, however, interested in the format. Will there be multiple brackets or some other means of reducing the field to one? Or do you just plan to play 3 or 4 rounds to fine tune your coding? Multiple brackets. This type of game is more suitable for longer events, weeks, or even a month. Not just 3-4 rounds.This test is mostly to check how the brackets and cuts work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 It's some sort of an individual, not teams. You join, play with 3 robots and get compared randomly with another player. A bit like the Arena Challenges, but you keep playing until you get eliminated. I see. The trouble with robot events is I cannot take them seriously. I do enter some free tournaments with robots, but I usually do them when I am watching TV. Actually I worry that I will get into bad habits when I play without counting, planning the play, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 The trouble with robot events is I cannot take them seriously.The thing is to remember that you're playing against the other humans, not against the robots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiskundige Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Hi all,We're experimenting with a new tournament format, which consists in a series of chained challenges, where losers are knocked out. It's supposed to run as a series, over several days or weeks, and reduce the field until there is only one winner.Wanna help us test it? Yes, please. How do I sign up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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