shah123 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 In a Casual game my partner opens 4 spades. I passed with 4 points and 1 spade. He removes me from the board. What response should I have made? When I am the host I cannot remove someone who is abusive. Is there a special membership for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 You bid perfectly. When you're host you can remove players, it doesn't require anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shah123 Posted August 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 You bid perfectly. When you're host you can remove players, it doesn't require anything special. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sir,This example means too much liberty and undeserving rights have been given to any host.If the host wants to remove the Gentleman,then he must give him a warning explaining the reasons.A sudden removal is unpardonable and also insulting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sir,This example means too much liberty and undeserving rights have been given to any host.If the host wants to remove the Gentleman,then he must give him a warning explaining the reasons.A sudden removal is unpardonable and also insulting.I agree, but BBO does not, as it has repeated in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarletv Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 But there is an easy way of reporting this abusive bahviour by pressing the profile of the host's player name. When most report, BBO will have a history of bad behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 But there is an easy way of reporting this abusive bahviour by pressing the profile of the host's player name. When most report, BBO will have a history of bad behaviour.It would be much easier for BBO to recognise and evaluate the problem if the host was forced to choose a reason each time he booted a player. It would soon be obvious which players are abusing hosting rights and which players are consistently getting booted and why.But maybe BBO doesn't want to know these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 In a game truly played by Ladies and Gentlemen, there would be no need for the site to require warnings - they would Just Be Given, as is properly expected by Etiquette. Hah, even then there was the Cut Direct, and the correct response to "you are not worth associating with" was to be obvious about it. But of course it's not, and the proper response (Proprieties as Laws notwithstanding) is not to shoehorn Proper Etiquette into the software. If someone is being abusive, they're gone. I don't have to give a reason, you should bloody well be able to figure it out. If you're not, because that's the way you treat everyone (okay, not People That Matter, like your boss - funny how that works, eh?), then I still don't need to deal with you, or educate you, or whatever. Boot, Ignore, never have to deal with you again. That goes double if I were Mary Morstan instead of Mycroft, or Swetha R or... and the chance I will be stalked or sealioned or reverse abuse@d, or whatever, is much higher. Having said that, I don't remember when I booted someone without a reason, but if it came up, You're Gone. That simple. Last time I remember booting anyone for anything other than connection issues was when RHO didn't get the hint that even as Juniors, we were not "free advice takers" (and my partner, at least, didn't need his level of advice, nor did I after I saw all 52 cards). First hand got a comment to that effect from my partner, second one got a boot ("without warning"). I have to admit that "last hand, thanks" is much more common than boot, because I tend only to host if I've got a set game - and even that is uncommon, as I tend to only play set games. Note: if "last hand, thanks" is board 3, the chance that I consider what you said on board 2 was abusive is very high. If it's board 5 or 6, the chance that it's Kaplan's "I know it was today, but *what time* today?" is higher. If it's a connection issue or a "oops, company just showed up", or "that phone call I took I have to deal with", you won't get "last hand, thanks", you'll get "Sorry, need to run. Life is interfering in Bridge" or the like. But that's just me - "Forgive us, we're Canadian". The proper response to being booted "for no reason", is to look for a reason, put the booter on your personal block list, and find another game. If it happens frequently, look harder for a common denominator (note, there is only one). How frequently is "frequently"? Ah, there's the rub. On the other hand, find the players who don't boot capriciously, that have a skill and speed and attitude of play that you prefer, and follow them; and look to play again (or with them) there. Those who boot everyone who do better than they do, or who make a mistake once as their partner, eventually drop into the pool that IRL is known as "the permanent partnership desk", and the same thing happens - the only people that will play with them are others of their ilk. And that, too, is a success, of sorts. I have been getting GDrive spam in the last little while. Every time I want to deal with it, I have to give a reason. That doesn't make me less interested in booting it out of my drive; but it does mean I'm less likely to report the problem, instead of just deleting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Some years ago we tried keeping track of hosts who boot players excessively, and automatically disabling their ability to host tables for a period of time. It didn't work out too well, so we disabled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas_P Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 In a Casual game my partner opens 4 spades. I passed with 4 points and 1 spade. He removes me from the board. What response should I have made? When I am the host I cannot remove someone who is abusive. Is there a special membership for that?The host obviously was a turd. You run the risk of encountering turds when you click on Help Me Find A Game. Try to develop friendships/partnerships with players who are compatible and courteous. Set times to play with those people, start your own table and if a turd joins and misbehaves boot them and enjoy the game with people who are compatible and courteous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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