bluenikki Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 It's problematic to raise with mins even if you exclude trash like this example hand. There's just not enough room to show extras below 3nt.It is not the last chance to show diamond support; later support can be real support because tolerance hands can mostly rebid M or NT or a 4th suit scramble (1s-2d-2s-3c-3h!). It's not like partial auctions where you are frequently needing to show tolerance for a 2 level partial without a real fit. Showing support isn't that useful with the weaker hands when a very large percentage of the time 3nt is the target vs 5m. The sensible approach is to reserve a (possibly artificial) rebid for opener to show a king above the agreed range of "minimum opening" and have all other rebids be as descriptive as possible and deny such extra. As to last chance: I meant last chance below 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 if i open i would rebid 2 spades to show min, but i dont open this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL78 Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 OK you are not playing 2/1 and you are playing 3d as some min range hand not accepting anything. Fine. Now:- what do you do with a good hand with spades and diamonds? You say 3c? Then what do you do with a good hand with spades and clubs? Or is 3C a good hand with either clubs or diamonds? How do you disentangle all this? - you say you bid 3nt with 14-16, what do you do with 17+? lump those into 3c too? If it is semi-balanced, make the NT bid which shows my point count.If it is a very good hand with slam possibilities if partner is also good, bid 4♦. Partner can sign off in 4NT or 5♦ with no slam interest.If I have six spades, rebid the spades.Very occasionally, I might have to make a forcing bid such as 3♣, that won't come up very often so partner is free to assume a club suit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCal Posted July 24, 2020 Report Share Posted July 24, 2020 I cannot see myself opening this hand in first or second seat. It creates the type of problem the opener encountered. For some strange reason, though, assuming I would open, I would have raised to three diamonds. After a first seat opening you cannot pass (unless you were making some sort of psychic bid, but this is not the proper type of hand for that). Your three diamonds bid shows a minimum (in this case a sub-minimum). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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