Defending precision 2C

[Cyberyeti]

Background:

 

We play weak and at the right vul VERY weak jump overcalls over 1♠

We play int-strong jump overcalls over a weak 2♦ and don't change what we do if it's intermediate

 

What jump overcalls do most people who do something like the above play over a precision 2♣ ?

 

The hand in question was at even vul, xx, K10x, AKQxxxx, x

[KingCovert]

The only intermediate jump over calls I have played are against Two over One 1♣ and 1♦ opening bids. I guess, I'd have some questions for you if I were to provide any feedback. Are your jump overcalls intended to be single suited? What do you do with a 16 HCP hand with 2 suits? Double?

[gordontd]

If you already have an agreement as to what you do over intermediate 2D openers, why would you do anything different over intermediate 2C?

[Tramticket]

A 2C opening is well defined within a narrow range. In these circumstances a preempt seems to be less useful as your opponents will be well placed to judge what to do.

[Cyberyeti]

If you already have an agreement as to what you do over intermediate 2D openers, why would you do anything different over intermediate 2C?

 

Well we play weak over a precision spade and 1N which are the openers below, and when I asked partner what he thought, he (who actually plays precision more often than I do) said that a weak 3♦ overcall was something that was a useful weapon, I wasn't sure.

 

To Kingcovert: The jumps are single suited, I suspect 3♣ would be both majors, a 16 count with diamonds and a major if not good enough for 4♦ leaping michaels would just be overcalled in the major

[akwoo]

I suspect that it might matter whether opps are playing 2♣ as 6+ or as 5+. After all, Precision players who play 2♣ as 6+ are giving up better constructive bidding(*) for better ability to handle competition.

 

Of course you probably don't want to switch depending on the difference, but it might matter which is more prevalent in your area.

 

(*) Playing 6+, the (41)35 hands are a bit hard to handle, whereas "everyone" knows that, if the opps don't jump in, the Berkowitz-Cohen relays handle all the possibilities over 5+ 2♣ very well.

[nige1]

[hv=pc=n&s=s86hkt4dakq8642c2&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=2c(Precision)?]133|200| Cyberyeti "Background: We play weak and at the right vul VERY weak jump overcalls over 1♠ We play int-strong jump overcalls over a weak 2♦ and don't change what we do if it's intermediate. What jump overcalls do most people who do something like the above play over a precision 2♣ ?"

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On the given hand I overcall 2♦. Over an opponent's weak 2 or Precision 2♣, the kind of structure I like:

- X = T/O

- 2♦/2♥/2♠ = NAT 5+ cards.

- 2NT = NAT 16-18 HCP.

- 3♣ = ART 5+ ♥ 5+ ♠.

- 3♦/3♥/3♠ = NAT F/G Sets suit. Invites cues.

- 3N = NAT often based on a long ♦ suit.

- 4♣ = ART 5+ ♦ 5+ ♥.

- 4♦ = ART 5+ ♦ 5+ ♠.[/hv]

[Vampyr]

[hv=pc=n&s=s86hkt4dakq8642c2&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=2c(Precision)?]133|200| Cyberyeti "Background: We play weak and at the right vul VERY weak jump overcalls over 1♠ We play int-strong jump overcalls over a weak 2♦ and don't change what we do if it's intermediate. What jump overcalls do most people who do something like the above play over a precision 2♣ ?"

On the given hand I overcall 2♦. Over an opponent's weak 2 or Precision 2♣, the kind of structure I like:

- X = T/O

- 2♦/2♥/2♠ = NAT 5+ cards.

- 2NT = NAT 16-18 HCP.

- 3♣ = ART 5+ ♥ 5+ ♠.

- 3♦/3♥/3♠ = NAT F/G Set's suit. Invites cues.

- 3N = NAT often based on a long ♦ suit.

- 4♣ = ART 5+ ♦ 5+ ♥.

- 4♦ = ART 5+ ♦ 5+ ♠.[/hv]

 

I like the two-way Leaping Michaels, but am unsure about the GF natural JS over an intermediate bid. It is interesting.