whereagles Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Matchpoints opposite weak field. Intermediate pard who usually overbids. All vuln, you hold: ♠ --♥ AKQ986542♦ JT97♣ -- RHO you LHO pard1♦.....?? Your options are: 1. Any nr. of hearts (preemptive, even at 5 or 6 level)2. 3NT gambling with stopper So, what is your favourite bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 4♥, unless I have 4♦ available as a very strong (serious) pre-empt in an unspecified major. I will bid more later if I have to. That hand is not suited for defence at any level. Double followed by hearts is waste of time. Partner will never know if he has the right values for slam anyway. By the way, 4♥ could very well be the limit no matter how strong partner is. AKQ, AKQ in the black suits won't help a lot if he is void in hearts. On a very bad day we are even down in 4♥ (partner's void and a diamond ruff). And they can't make anything, because partner is loaded in spades and clubs. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 4♥ (communication problem is coming ! ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Do we know anything about the opponents? If it will make it more likely that they'll let me buy the contract in game, I might try starting with just 1♥ or 2♥ and carry on bidding until they pass/double/whatever. On the other hand, if they're likely to overstretch to compete, then 6♥ will put them on a nasty guess as to whether to bid 6♠. I prefer 5♥ to 4♥. Sure, there are times when 4♥ will be passed out, but there are far more where they'll bid 4♠ (unless the opponents are really cautious, in which case 4♥ is probably the right bid). Now they'll have a better chance of correctly guessing what to do over 5♥ (you're not selling out to 4♠, are you?) I don't really like 3nt. Far too much chance that they'll run a black suit, or if p has stoppers, that he won't have a way of crossing to your hand. If you want to piss around, some number of ♠ is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Pass. Let them play 3NT and go -5 doubled ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yea right Frederick. This never seems to work for me.I agree with Roland's analysis and bid 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Anything could work, there's no book on how to bid freak hands. I like the idea of bidding 5H although i have never made this bid at the table since partner is always 6-6 in the blacks ;) I still think its the percentage action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hate 3NT, I'd bid 5♥ at the table but pass could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 This is purely a question of tactics. Since partner and LHO have yet to bid, I want to Pass for now and see what develops. I'd much rather play in 4♥X than 4♥. Of course things could go terribly wrong, but since I'm not going to get dealt this hand very often, I might as well have some fun with it when I come across it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I really dont like pass. Aside from letting them exchange info, if you ever pass then later bid 5H or 4H the opps will know you're walking it if they have any clue about bridge. Not to mention lets say the auction goes 1D p 2C 3S 4C 4H. 4H now shows spade support. This is also true of 1D p 2C 2S 3C 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 4H Good Grief cannot I not just bid my hand and try and win in the play and defense? Let the opp make the last guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 right, i agree with justin.. if i pass now and partner bids spades, my heart bid sounds like a fit.. i think i'd bid 4♥ at the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 4H Good Grief cannot I not just bid my hand and try and win in the play and defense? Let the opp make the last guess. I agree, except there is no way that im going to sell out below 5H unless partner doubles them which is why I bid it now. I *may* buy it for 4HX if i bid it now but it seems very unlikely. I would like to make the opps make the last guess as well, that is why I like FIVE hearts. If I bid 4, I will be making the last guess if they happen to bid on which is very likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 That may very well be winning bid. We are vul and I always read in bridge magazines "the 5 level belongs to the opp" I pass 4s or let them bid 4s or 4nt over my 4h bid. This may very well be one of those Judgement hands where the top class will beat me but If playing with Hamman or Bobbie W. or Soloway or Justins I would bid 4h, shut up and hope to learn later. Heck they are UPH. add on: what does anti law say here?13-short suit adj-wp adj?13-0-(see below)wp=16-18=-1=13-15=-2=10-12=-3=7-9=-4 Worst case 5h=down 2. Of course this does not say opp are making anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I cannot imagine that there is any "right" answer on such a freak hand. 4♥ or 5♥ could be spot on. A psych of 1♠ or 2♣ might happen to work out beautifully or it might excite partner into the stratosphere. If you want to walk the dog, you could pass, bid 1♥, 2♥ or 3♥. You could even bid 1NT or 3NT. Personally, I think passing and then bidding hearts might win the day. Yes they might be suspicious, but will they really put me on this hand? Yes there are risks if partner starts bidding, but there are risks with any of the bids. 5♥ is my second choice as I think this puts opponents on the last guess. 4♥ is my third choice as partner could have a spade stack and I might buy the contract here. However, once I take this view, then I don't think I should necessarily push to 5♥. A fun hand regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 p (1c) 1s (5c)5h (p) 6s (yeee haaaa) p (1s) 2c (4s)5h (p) 6c (oh goodie, a club fit and fit jump) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I see 2 options: 1♥ for constructive issues looking to get to slam and 4♥. 4♥ has teh great advantage that aprtner won't bid 4♠ on his first round, at least not to play them. If opponents aren't strong I would bid just 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 6♥ I have a lot of excuses if this doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatrix45 Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 :) 3♣, preemptive jump overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 p (1c) 1s (5c)5h (p) 6s (yeee haaaa) p (1s) 2c (4s)5h (p) 6c (oh goodie, a club fit and fit jump)Are we looking at the same auction? RHO opened 1♦. If partner blows you out of the water with a bid, that's the risk you take by passing. You don't compound it by making a bid that isn't part of your system. WTP? Any call you make carries a risk. I just think, let's have some fun with this. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Indeed a fun hand. I don't think I've ever bid a direct 5H over one of a minor but I have over 1S. There is no guarantee the opponents have a spade fit. Wouldn't you feel a bit stupid if pard had 6 or 7 spades of his own and enough soft cards in the minors that limits the hand to 4H and you could have bought it for that? I do intend to take a 5H call over anything. I don't know how to get pards help in a slam investigation here although perhaps a sensible approach would be to make a jump cue in diamonds and pull to 4H to perhaps this shows a solid suit and a slammish hand that wants to hear a cue bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Are we looking at the same auction? RHO opened 1♦. If partner blows you out of the water with a bid, that's the risk you take by passing. You don't compound it by making a bid that isn't part of your system. WTP? Any call you make carries a risk. I just think, let's have some fun with this. :lol: arghh you're right.. helps to pay attention to the bidding but i still think if you pass you might get burnt anytime they find a fit or partner bids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 getting pards help in slam investigation is a good idea except its impossible. How will pard know if he has AKxx xxx xx AKxx that is not enough, but xxxx xxxx x xxxx is perfect? This is not a deal where we enlist partners help. Granted with that being said who knows what the right bid is, anything and everything could work. BTW don't most experts play 1D-3D as natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Of course, I bid 2D, Michael's, on the way to 7H doubled when partner won't believe my repeated heart bids thereafter and keeps on raising spades. In real life, I believe there are two "correct" options: 1) pass and listen to the bidding for a while, and 2) bid 5 hearts right now. Both are extreme actions, but this is an extreme hand. WinstonM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 I don't really find 5♥ so appealing, if you can make only 4♥ bidding 5 is quite silly, if you can make 6♥ bidding 5 is not brilliant either since pd won't know if he has to bid 6 or not. So I only like 4♥ and 6♥ in this auction.Passing is silly, you will get them to exchange information and know what to do better, if you directly bid 4 or 6 hearts they have to guess whats going on inmediately. As some of you said, who knows, anything can be right but I think 5♥ is a road to nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.