3C or 3D

[kgr]

MP's

 

1C-(DBL)-1NT-(2H)

3C-(P)-

 

What is 3C here? Is it invitational, does it show extra's or is it only (good) 6-card Club and to compete?

 

You did bid 1NT holding:

KJx

KJx

xxxx

Jxx

 

3NT now or Pass?

 

Would this be different in IMP's?

[Fluffy]

3♣: to play

 

that doesn't mean you can't bid 3NT, if you wanna gamble 9 tricks you might be right, but I don't feel good about it, I would pass.

[Guest Jlall]

3C is not invitational. You can bid 3N on some hands but its more a competitive bid and can be based on a soundish minimum. This is definitely the wrong hand to be trying 3N on. The right type of hand would be

 

Axx

Axx

xxxx

Qxx

 

Where you can expect to run 9 fast ones.

[Walddk]

3♣ shows a good 6+ card suit, but doesn't promise extras. If opener is strong he could rebid 2NT (invitational) or 3NT. Clear pass for me.

[mike777]

MP's

 

1C-(DBL)-1NT-(2H)

3C-(P)-

 

What is 3C here? Is it invitational, does it show extra's or is it only (good) 6-card Club and to compete?

 

You did bid 1NT holding:

KJx

KJx

xxxx

Jxx

 

3NT now or Pass?

 

Would this be different in IMP's?

Great example hand of not bidding your values twice. You told p you got 8hcp and major suit stoppers, your hand has not improved. Note the maximum hand in Justin's example with 2 bullets, now you got values you have not shown.

[MickyB]

A similar question - how strong is 1D-(P)-1N-(2H), 3C?

[Guest Jlall]

same strength.

[awm]

I'd bid 3NT. Give opener a hand such as:

 

Ax

xx

Qxx

AQTxxx

 

This seems like a fairly minimum hand to me, but 3NT has pretty good chances. The club finesse is very likely to be on, since the double presumably indicates short clubs, and the free 2♥ bid implies some values (which easily could include the club king). I'd rate it as slightly above fifty percent.

 

Of course, this depends a bit on exactly how sound your minor suit openings are, as well as things like the meaning of opener's double (penalty? takeout? maximal?) and opener's 2NT (invitational? good/bad? pick a minor?).

[Winstonm]

I agree with JLall, but would go even further that the Q of clubs in his example is almost as important as one of the aces.

 

If fact, if I held: AKx, J10xx, xxxx, Qx, I would still bid 3N expecting to run 6-7 clubs tricks. Expected hand opposite? xxx, x Axx, AKJ9xxx would be about right on the bidding.

 

winstonm

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

for me 3C is to play and we play 2 NT as artifical,

kind of good / bad, to differentiate between strong

hands and hands who just want to bid competitive.

 

If 2NT promises add. strength, partner will bid 3C as

releay with min. values => in this case you can pass,

or accepts your invitation and refueses the relay.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Fluffy]

I'd bid 3NT. Give opener a hand such as:

 

Ax

xx

Qxx

AQTxxx

 

This seems like a fairly minimum hand to me, but 3NT has pretty good chances. The club finesse is very likely to be on, since the double presumably indicates short clubs, and the free 2♥ bid implies some values (which easily could include the club king). I'd rate it as slightly above fifty percent.

 

Of course, this depends a bit on exactly how sound your minor suit openings are, as well as things like the meaning of opener's double (penalty? takeout? maximal?) and opener's 2NT (invitational? good/bad? pick a minor?).

Isn't this the best possible minimum avaible (or onw of the best at least)?

 

Even with this hand opponents could be cold for 3NT, maybe you are trying to steal their contract by bidding it first :-P.