Chamaco Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Hi all,I'd like to have a quick look at the way EHAA handles the continuations of 2-level openings, to compare vs Fantunes style. I'd appreciate any kind of feedback, thanks !! :-) Mauro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Single raise and 2N constructive NF New suits weak I think, but some play as constructive NF Jumps nat forcing Slightly simpler than Fantunes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Single raise and 2N constructive NF New suits weak I think, but some play as constructive NF Jumps nat forcing Slightly simpler that Fantunes!Fantunes have tuned their system to allow for not missing potential games when both players hold 10-13 and 10-13. That's why their NF bids promise substantial values (10-13) OR, if low in values, a selfsufficient suit that justify bidding in spite of low hcp content. I was curious about the EHAA approach and their scrambling methods.Any study material around ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Having played it with Jon Probst, we played next suit asks for second suit and 2NT would show the asking suit as the second suit. That is 2♥-2♠-2NT would be showing hearts and spades by opener. I found a write up on a modified EHAA here: http://www.abo.fi/~jboling/bridge/ehaap.pdf Apparently there's also a book you can buy about it. More information can be found here: http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/ehaa_faq.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Single raise and 2N constructive NF New suits weak I think, but some play as constructive NF Jumps nat forcing Slightly simpler that Fantunes!Fantunes have tuned their system to allow for not missing potential games when both players hold 10-13 and 10-13. That's why their NF bids promise substantial values (10-13) OR, if low in values, a selfsufficient suit that justify bidding in spite of low hcp content. I was curious about the EHAA approach and their scrambling methods.Any study material around ? Yes, you can go online to major usa book sellers and buy EHAA. I am one of those who grew up thinking EHAA was standard bridge bidding in early 70's, enjoy!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I am not sure how you are going to apply anything between the systems - as far as I can tell, EHAA and FN style are *nothing* alike. EHAA two-bids are designed to get in, get in the way, and get the kind of hands that get 2/1 players in trouble out of the one-bids. Constructive "don't enner into it". In fact, Eric Landau (the name on the book...) told me he once was told "the EHAA MP death score is not -200, but +200" (for 2M+3). But here's the structure, anyway: - New suits NF, non-constructive, trying to find a better contract. I remember one auction that went 2C!-p-2D!-AP. "what's the alert of 2D?" "It is my partner's considered opinion that 2D will play better than 2C..." and as I put down dummy, which included C87432 "and I agree with him." New suits by opener continue the scramble. One exception to the above: at MPs, with a decent hand, responder may make a "improve the contract" 2M bid with support, because he expects to make both contracts.- Raises, 2NT and free bids NF but constructive (about 14-17 points). Game raises are two-way, and sets up a force if responder is bidding to make. 2m-p-4m is GF (see J/S below). In competition, XX by responder is "help", XX by opener is "I'm going to make this".- J/S below game are GF, pretty much guaranteeing slam opposite a good EHAA 2-bid (because game opposite a bad EHAA 2-bid needs a *lot*). That was the most surprising part of EHAA to me - the number of slams we got to after an EHAA 2bid that were unbiddable in standard after p-2C. Not saying it's a great system (I wouldn't pin my hopes of a world championship on it) but it sure is fun to play (especially for me, who has APAD - always pass as dealer - pretty much written on the card). But as I said, the 2-bid goals are 180 degrees from F-N's. Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Yes, you can go online to major usa book sellers and buy EHAA. I tried to find Landau/Baron 's book at Baron Barclay and Amazon, but it seems to be out of print :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I am not sure how you are going to apply anything between the systems - as far as I can tell, EHAA and FN style are *nothing* alike. If EHAA and Fantunes are different, then good :) : I already have some study material on FN, it would be silly to have duplicated material ;) Just trying to get an idea of EHAA style, but in order to have that, I need much more than simply the system notes: I need commented examples, to get a feeling about hand evaluation. I might as well decide to play straight EHAA, but I need to study the concrete hand examples before deciding whether that style suits me better than F-N :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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