MickyB Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I'm thinking about a strong club system where a 1M (and possibly 1♦) opener is usually 4 cards or 6 cards - something like 10-12 bal or 10-15 either single suited or two suited canape. I'm wondering about 2M openers showing 5M4+♣, anyone know if there are any similar systems? I believe those 2M openers were used in old Italian system and I'm told they were used by a pair on vugraph recently, anyone know any more? TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Roman Club featured a 2M opening showing the major and clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 weiss uses all 1 bids to show 2 suiters, canape always (unless clubs involved)... 2 suiters are 11-15/16, 6+.. 2c is 3 suiter... i've been working on something that combines the one and two suiters into the 1 bids so can still have 2 bids weak, haven't finished yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I believe those 2M openers were used in old Italian system and I'm told they were used by a pair on vugraph recently, This was FitzGibbon/Mesbur of the Irish team in Istanbul; you can find their CC on the ecats site. Their card says "Blue Club" but I don't believe that's an accurate description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Take a look here456i also remember there was a system caqlled protest that had the same idea about 1 level opening ,the name protest is because they protest againt all the world moving to 5 card major and therfore made a system that 1 level show either 4 or 6 cards, but never 5 cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 i have just found the info about the protest system, i will paste it here :"Protest* 1.69 The Protest system was developed in 1985, as a protest against the 5card major openings promoted by Goren's Goren's New BridgeComplete. In Protest, a major opening can be 4 or 6 cards, but never5. Information from the inventor, Richard Lighton, Wood-Ridge, NewJersey. Protest Opening Bids1C 12-21 4+ clubs or 5 card major1D 12-21 4+ diamonds1H 12-21 4 or 6+ hearts1S 12-21 4 or 6+ spades1N 12-16 no 4 card major2C 22+ any shape2D 11-15 44412H 10-14 5-6 hearts and 4+ clubs2S 10-14 5-6 spades and 4+ clubs2N 20-22 balanced The 1C opening can contain as few as zero clubs in a 5530 hand, and itdenies a 4 card major. After 1C/D, 1H/S shows a 5+ card suit, sinceopener doesn't have a 4 card major." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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