Precision 2C opening

[mr1303]

I've been worried a bit about the precision 2C opening (5 clubs 4M or 6+ clubs, not (43)15 or 4405). Specifically, how to play these sequences

 

2C 3C

 

2C 2D

2M 3C

 

2C 2NT

 

How do other people do it? The problem is, how I see it, is how to show invitational hands with support, pre-emptive hands and forcing hands that don't want to bypass 3NT.

[MickyB]

Have a look at the WJ05 document. The responses are something like this...

2D Inv+ enquiry, GF single suiters bid their suit at the next turn

2M Nat constructive NF

2N puppet to 3C, either weak raise or GF 2 suiter

all 3 level bids natural inv

[mike777]

I've been worried a bit about the precision 2C opening (5 clubs 4M or 6+ clubs, not (43)15 or 4405). Specifically, how to play these sequences

 

2C 3C

 

2C 2D

2M 3C

 

2C 2NT

 

How do other people do it? The problem is, how I see it, is how to show invitational hands with support, pre-emptive hands and forcing hands that don't want to bypass 3NT.

I see Rodwell has often said, "you should be worried, precision 2clubs is our worst bid" Unless he has changed, he only opens this with 6clubs now and has dropped the 5 club option. Throws rest into 1D I guess.

[Guest Jlall]

i noticed you said 4M 5C but not (43)15 or 4405... this leaves 4225, i would reccomend you treat that as balanced so that 2C is always 6+ clubs.

[luis]

2♣-3♣ should be preemptive or semi-preemptive. AKA a Mixed Raise.

2♣-2♦; 3♣ should be forcing

2♣-2NT I play as Both Majors and INV hand

[Adebisi]

Hi, i have played Precision for some years and i could say that simple things could be the best:)

 

2C 3C Preemtive raise but invitational when VUL

 

2C 2D

2MAJ 3C nonforcing, opener bids on with max

2NT relay , gameforcing

 

2C 2NT nat inv usually without C supp.

 

All fancy things like 2NT as Preemtive raise or gameforcing 55 hands are ok but 55 hands after 2 C openings are very rare anyway, and to loose frequent nat 2NT is a loss.Cheers!

[MickyB]

i noticed you said 4M 5C but not (43)15 or 4405... this leaves 4225, i would reccomend you treat that as balanced so that 2C is always 6+ clubs.

2C can also be (41)35 in Mark's system.

[Guest Jlall]

good point ;) yeah you'd have to move that into 1D...still worth it i think.

[Flame]

I play blicki zmudzinki system over 2c, its not too easy to reemmber but i believe its very good.

blicki zmudzinki cc

[bearmum]

i noticed you said 4M 5C but not (43)15 or 4405... this leaves 4225, i would reccomend you treat that as balanced so that 2C is always 6+ clubs.

2C can also be (41)35 in Mark's system.

I play Precision and unless the 41(or 14) 3 5 hand had 14/15 with almost all the points in the clubs and majors I would open then 1♦ also