Any help/advice on tournament format greatly appreciated!

[rustysnow]

Hi all, recently just got granted the privilege to be able to run tournaments by the BBO Support Team! Really grateful that now at least there is BBO to serve as a platform to play bridge when there is the ongoing virus situation. (Everyone please do take care!) Would just like to ask how I should create my tournament to be held within members of my school bridge club since I'm pretty new to the TD scene. Any help is appreciated!

 

Context: Would like to hold an individual tournament for eight members. 2 boards per round and after end of each round switch partners. Hence, there shall be 7 rounds of playing, so that everyone ends up partnering up with someone else exactly only once throughout the entirety of the tournaments. Currently, I am clear in the some aspects of creating the tournament such as setting the time limit and only allowing those in my include list to register, but one main concern I have is whether Clocked or Unclocked movement will affect how the tournament is carried out! Someone can help me to clarify my understanding of these movements, as I am worried if I used Unclocked movement the faster table will just continue the second round of play. Is there also anything else I should take note of?

 

Also, say I would like to create a Pairs Tournament, but on a certain day, there might be only five pairs that registered, so one pair is to be a "sitout", is that right? (not too sure about the meaning of a sitout as it seems to me that it is a different thing compared to people being offline but when I see the document for TDs sent by the BBO staff, they still have to be replaced and hence quite puzzled) If that is so, is there any specific settings that I would need to alter to ensure all five pairs will be able to play against one another? Say I set up four rounds of 2 boards each, with a certain time limit and only people in my include list can register (just like the previous situation). Will BBO help me automatically set the format of the tournament such that all five pairs can play against one another, or is there a certain setting I ought to take note of? Any other advice for running this Pairs Tournament is also greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you for all responses in advance and have a nice day, cheers!

 

Regards,

Russell

[helene_t]

You can relax the restrictions some 2 minutes before tourney start, allowing some random pair to fill up the empty seats.

[rustysnow]

You can relax the restrictions some 2 minutes before tourney start, allowing some random pair to fill up the empty seats.

 

Hi helene_t, thank you for your response! That is definitely an option! However, say on the other hand, my club members are rather more keen on playing against one another (perhaps fearing strangers too as I do know that my members' playing level is close to novice/ beginner) and do not mind the sitouts. Any settings to take into consideration when creating the tournament? As mentioned in my original post, I'm not sure whether BBO will help me format such that after the four rounds, everyone would have played with one another, or whether there is a particular setting I need to change to allow such arrangement of pairs, and that whether there is a particular or more suitable movement (unclocked/clocked) that would allow me to achieve my purpose.

 

Any clarification is greatly appreciated!

 

Regards,

Russell

[barmar]

BBO doesn't currently support movements with a half table. SITOUT is just a temporary placeholder, you have to fill them in with real players.

[Curls77]

Hi all, recently just got granted the privilege to be able to run tournaments by the BBO Support Team! Really grateful that now at least there is BBO to serve as a platform to play bridge when there is the ongoing virus situation. (Everyone please do take care!) Would just like to ask how I should create my tournament to be held within members of my school bridge club since I'm pretty new to the TD scene. Any help is appreciated!

Regards,

Russell

That is very kind of you Russell :) I am one of IAC admins, private club in IAC and we also lowered our criteria of admissions in attempt help people that are forced stay indoors. Please send me private message in bbo with your email and I can help you with some tips for running small size trnys.

[pescetom]

That is very kind of you Russell :) I am one of IAC admins, private club in IAC and we also lowered our criteria of admissions in attempt help people that are forced stay indoors. Please send me private message in bbo with your email and I can help you with some tips for running small size trnys.

 

Not to intrude, but why don't you post your tips here?

Lots of people forced to stay indoors are meditating running a tournament for the first time.

I'm sure any help would be welcome.

[kaison]

I have created #5611, but how can I make it to show up in the "Free Tournament" list so that my club members can register?

Thanks,

 

Kaison

[barmar]

It should have shown up automatically. They appear 2 hours before the tourney starts.

[rustysnow]

Not to intrude, but why don't you post your tips here?

Lots of people forced to stay indoors are meditating running a tournament for the first time.

I'm sure any help would be welcome.

 

Hi all, Sanya (Curls77) has shared privately with me some tips in running more small-sized tournaments, which should be of increasing trend in the days to come since more of us are likely to hold small tournaments for our friends and family.

 

1. In small-sized tournaments take note of the disadvantage of using unclocked movement whereby fast players will play with the same faster members whereas the slow players will play with the same slower players.

 

2. In the event whereby one wants to create an individual tournament for small groups of people and everyone gets paired up with one another at least once (eg tournament for eight members), 7 rounds of 2 boards each does not guarantee everyone pairing with one another to happen. Instead, use 14 rounds x 1 boards.

 

3. Sanya has kindly shared the link which IAC has created for their TDs (https://iac-td-web-bbo.site123.me/). Really simple summary and good for beginners like me to grasp the essentials of directing with clear navigation of details. The link features an older version of BBO but much has remained the same.

 

Would like to thank Sanya for taking time off to share the tips and resources. I am sure there are others who have read the thread and are just like me, new TDs that would like to create tournaments for be it our loved ones or club members. TD resources are quite limited in quantity and might not be as easy to navigate, so hopefully with this thread more of us are in better shape to start organising and directing our own tournaments :) Also, BBO Tournament Directors Forum features some resources too that can be quite useful for us beginner TDs.

 

Lastly, have fun in tournaments, playing bridge, and most importantly stay safe, and hopefully, this situation dies off eventually and we can all play offline peacefully soon. Take care and do feel free to add on this thread if any ideas arise. Cheers!

 

Regards,

Russell

[Curls77]

I can share some more links, given by diana eva. I am affraid none reffers to V3, but TD tools are same, just look little different.

 

 

In Forum are some pages where a new TD can read about what he has to do, about his attitude when he direct a tournament. In BBO Forum you may find lot on information:

 

How to set a tournament

http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/16194-td-class-1-script/

 

Traing as TD (by Rain - session 1)

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=12986

 

Traing as TD (by Rain - session 2)

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=13117

 

Adjustments by Fred

http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/33882-using-gib-when-adjusting-scores/

 

We posted an article on news to help the TDs:

http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=3629

[kaison]

Hi all, recently just got granted the privilege to be able to run tournaments by the BBO Support Team! Really grateful that now at least there is BBO to serve as a platform to play bridge when there is the ongoing virus situation. (Everyone please do take care!) Would just like to ask how I should create my tournament to be held within members of my school bridge club since I'm pretty new to the TD scene. Any help is appreciated!

 

Context: Would like to hold an individual tournament for eight members. 2 boards per round and after end of each round switch partners. Hence, there shall be 7 rounds of playing, so that everyone ends up partnering up with someone else exactly only once throughout the entirety of the tournaments. Currently, I am clear in the some aspects of creating the tournament such as setting the time limit and only allowing those in my include list to register, but one main concern I have is whether Clocked or Unclocked movement will affect how the tournament is carried out! Someone can help me to clarify my understanding of these movements, as I am worried if I used Unclocked movement the faster table will just continue the second round of play. Is there also anything else I should take note of?

 

Also, say I would like to create a Pairs Tournament, but on a certain day, there might be only five pairs that registered, so one pair is to be a "sitout", is that right? (not too sure about the meaning of a sitout as it seems to me that it is a different thing compared to people being offline but when I see the document for TDs sent by the BBO staff, they still have to be replaced and hence quite puzzled) If that is so, is there any specific settings that I would need to alter to ensure all five pairs will be able to play against one another? Say I set up four rounds of 2 boards each, with a certain time limit and only people in my include list can register (just like the previous situation). Will BBO help me automatically set the format of the tournament such that all five pairs can play against one another, or is there a certain setting I ought to take note of? Any other advice for running this Pairs Tournament is also greatly appreciated!

 

Thank you for all responses in advance and have a nice day, cheers!

 

Regards,

Russell

Hi Russell,

 

I have exactly the same format question as you have here. I guess I will try out to set up eight players with 14 hands, two hands per round, for individual score.

 

I have created tournament #5611, but it did not show up in the "Free Tournament" list which member can register.

 

Regard,

 

Kaison

[kaison]

It should have shown up automatically. They appear 2 hours before the tourney starts.

There are many "Free Tournament" list with many days lead-time before it started. It make me very nervous with only two hours lead-time. It will be so nice to know who is coming to play days before by checking the register list.

How can I to ask my member to register my tourney?

 

Thank you very much,

 

Kaison

[kaison]

Hi all, Sanya (Curls77) has shared privately with me some tips in running more small-sized tournaments, which should be of increasing trend in the days to come since more of us are likely to hold small tournaments for our friends and family.

 

1. In small-sized tournaments take note of the disadvantage of using unclocked movement whereby fast players will play with the same faster members whereas the slow players will play with the same slower players.

 

2. In the event whereby one wants to create an individual tournament for small groups of people and everyone gets paired up with one another at least once (eg tournament for eight members), 7 rounds of 2 boards each does not guarantee everyone pairing with one another to happen. Instead, use 14 rounds x 1 boards.

 

3. Sanya has kindly shared the link which IAC has created for their TDs (https://iac-td-web-bbo.site123.me/). Really simple summary and good for beginners like me to grasp the essentials of directing with clear navigation of details. The link features an older version of BBO but much has remained the same.

 

Would like to thank Sanya for taking time off to share the tips and resources. I am sure there are others who have read the thread and are just like me, new TDs that would like to create tournaments for be it our loved ones or club members. TD resources are quite limited in quantity and might not be as easy to navigate, so hopefully with this thread more of us are in better shape to start organising and directing our own tournaments :) Also, BBO Tournament Directors Forum features some resources too that can be quite useful for us beginner TDs.

 

Lastly, have fun in tournaments, playing bridge, and most importantly stay safe, and hopefully, this situation dies off eventually and we can all play offline peacefully soon. Take care and do feel free to add on this thread if any ideas arise. Cheers!

 

Regards,

Russell

Thank you Russell to let me know that use 14x1 instead of 7x2.

Do you know how to let you players to register your tourney before it starts?

Thanks,

 

Kaison

[Curls77]

Do you know how to let you players to register your tourney before it starts?

Thanks,

Kaison

You need message ur players with trny number and start time. Use bbo mail or any non bbo as skype or whatsap to let them know. Do not forget that if ur trny is "open", any bbo player will be able join it. If you want restrict entry to ONLY selected group of players, you need select option "Include Custom List" and have txt file uploaded to bbo with nicknames of players you want to be in.

The very first bbo version, windows client V1, shows all scheduled trnys & teams, many days ahead, but both web versions show only up to 90 mins prior to start.

 

Another tip. If you do not want add "outsiders" to ur trny, u can always do it manually (without using bbo trny tool) and assign bye to a pair without opps. There are many public, not much used rooms in bbo, let ur friends know and get there. Then u can have table run by TD where u post assignments, get scores reported and manually assign new round. TP Club in bbo does similar.

 

*PS maybe Barmar or other forum moderator will move this topic to TD area

[pescetom]

If you want restrict entry to ONLY selected group of players, you need select option "Include Custom List" and have txt file uploaded to bbo with nicknames of players you want to be in.

 

1. Is it possible to use a wildcard in the txt file, for example pete* to allow peter, pete72, petegolo ?

 

2. Someone mentioned the possibility to disable the Custom List at the last minute, in order to fill up a tournament when only a few players on the list have entered. How exactly is this done - do you just deselect the option?

[barmar]

1. No, there's no wildcard possibility.

 

2. Yes, I believe that's it.

[Curls77]

2. Someone mentioned the possibility to disable the Custom List at the last minute, in order to fill up a tournament when only a few players on the list have entered. How exactly is this done - do you just deselect the option?

Yes that's what u do. A min or 2 before start u edit trny and disable INCLUDE CUSTOM LIST. From that point on any bbo player will be able register. And unless u set # of entries low, u can get many entries. Good protection is to set min TCR, 80% recommended to avoid most quitters and rudes.