msjennifer Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Mike, what range would 2N (or a 2N rebid after 2♣) need to be for you to look for a slam ?Sir,the fist two sentences of your comment are absolutely genuine comments.We very often see the so-called bidding(unimaginable in practice on the table) when one sees all cards after the deal is over.We label such players as "MR/MRS 52" . I ,politely, make it absolutely clear that I have no intention of ridiculing anyone . P.S, sorry ,but this was a reply to Sir Mikeh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Slightly off topic, but I'll be very short: Madam, I know nothing about Ron Klinger's treatment of 2NT openers. Are there a free resource where I can read about that?SIR,First let me correct the address. I am not Madam yet.The mentioned treatment was handed over me by my Grandfather .It was published in the American publication "Bridge World "monthly magazine in the seventies.It may possibly be available on the net or from Ron Klinger site He conducts classes and also writes a daily column available from the net.He has represented Australia.This information is strictly for personal use and may not be considered an advertisement. If I find it again I may email a copy of the same to you.THANKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Please don't reply without reading. OP is playing puppet.Sir,I DID read indeed.I have absolutely no intention of denying S the freedom of using Puppet as and when he likes. Your earlier comment also asks S not to consider too much and just transfer.My comment was in relation to THIS PARTICULAR hand.If one still wishes to locate a five card heart suit ,very well.Practically all the posters have made the Transfer bid and no one has used puppet .Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijd Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 The overarching trouble here is with your 2NT bid. Above a 15-17 1NT call, you just can't afford to have three-point ranges. It leaves responder guessing as to what to do. You need two-point ranges, which is why Kokish was invented. If you play 20-22, then the auction should go as my Canadian attorney counterpart suggested: 2NT 3H3S 3NT4C 4D 4C ought to show 4-5 clubs (probably 5), 3-4 spades (you would pass 3NT with 2 spades), and a maximum (otherwise, you'd just settle for four spades). Now responder can cue-bid the diamond control to show a max, and now you should get to 6C. with 2NT 20-22 here is that responder then isn't good enough to bid 4C over 3S to suggest a slammish hand with a second suit. He has to settle for 3NT It's a lot easier if you play 20-21 2NT and 22-23 2C then 2NT. Then responder can make a 4C bid here: 2C 2D2NT 3H3S 4C And now I think getting to 6C is pretty pedestrian. CheersMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycherr Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 If you have decided to look for a Heart fit you must also decide not to play in 3NT, (it would be great if partner has 5 Hearts as you can ruff Diamonds in the short hand) so you must bid 4S when Partner bids 3NT it is very likely North has 3 card spade support. In this case the lead coming up to this hand is not a problem. The sequence is only a problem if partner has 2 Spades 4 or fewer Hearts and good stoppers in Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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