Cyberyeti Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 This is a contract I suspect you aren't going to make unless it's doubled. I played in 3♠, we lost a bunch because team mates doubled 4♠ and it made, I don't know the auction at their table. [hv=pc=n&s=s5hkj2dq94ckqt962&w=skjt83h3d86532c53&n=sq64hat65dkjt7cj4&e=sa972hq9874daca87&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=4sppp&p=cjc7cqc3ckc5c4cadad4d2d7h7hjh3h5]399|300[/hv] Follow the play through and observe the odd squeeze N is subjected to if S leads a club and W ruffs with the K, it's a kind of red suit ruffing squeeze with the added wrinkle that underruffing is also fatal. In practice with nothing to guide me and only in 3♠ I ruffed with the J and was overruffed so only emerged with 9 tricks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelicityR Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 That's a nice squeeze. I think - please correct me if I'm wrong - it's a variant of a cross ruffing squeeze with trumps outstanding. Triple cross ruffing squeeze, anyone? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 That's a nice squeeze. I think - please correct me if I'm wrong - it's a variant of a cross ruffing squeeze with trumps outstanding. Triple cross ruffing squeeze, anyone? :) It's not really a ruffing squeeze involving both reds in that what it really does is prevents a heart discard or you ruff them out, a diamond discard more allows you to cross ruff the hand because W has to follow to the 4th heart. It's just an odd position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 What was the auction at your table? Did South get to mention her clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 What was the auction at your table? Did South get to mention her clubs? 2♠-P-3♠ and nobody bid but they led ♣J anyway, 2♠ could have been 4 of them and a zero count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsLawsd Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 That's a nice squeeze. I think - please correct me if I'm wrong - it's a variant of a cross ruffing squeeze with trumps outstanding. Triple cross ruffing squeeze, anyone? :) It seems related to a Backwash Squeeze too- quite interesting and reinforces the idea Not to double and give away too much info. +100 or _50 are about the same without a huge trump stack. But it would be informative if we had the actual auction. DAVE###$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keen12 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 why can I not re- play the whole hand. It stops at 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keen12 Posted December 16, 2019 Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 This is a contract I suspect you aren't going to make unless it's doubled. I played in 3♠, we lost a bunch because team mates doubled 4♠ and it made, I don't know the auction at their table. [hv=pc=n&s=s5hkj2dq94ckqt962&w=skjt83h3d86532c53&n=sq64hat65dkjt7cj4&e=sa972hq9874daca87&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=4sppp&p=cjc7cqc3ckc5c4cadad4d2d7h7hjh3h5]399|300[/hv] Follow the play through and observe the odd squeeze N is subjected to if S leads a club and W ruffs with the K, it's a kind of red suit ruffing squeeze with the added wrinkle that underruffing is also fatal. In practice with nothing to guide me and only in 3♠ I ruffed with the J and was overruffed so only emerged with 9 tricks. It won't allow me to replay the whole hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2019 It won't allow me to replay the whole hand. Because I stopped it at the critical point, from that point, S plays a top club and W ruffs with the K, just look at what this does to N. Apparently it won't allow you to put part of a trick into diagrams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 [hv=pc=n&s=SAJT65HAD65432C65&w=SQ98HKQJTDKQJTCKQ&n=SK432H65432DAC432&d=s&v=0&a=4sppp&p=CKC2CJC5CQC3CAC6CT]300|300| Cyberyeti 'This is a contract I suspect you aren't going to make unless it's doubled. I played in 3♠, we lost a bunch because team mates doubled 4♠ and it made, I don't know the auction at their table. Follow the play through and observe the odd squeeze N is subjected to if S leads a club and W ruffs with the K, it's a kind of red suit ruffing squeeze with the added wrinkle that underruffing is also fatal. In practice with nothing to guide me and only in 3♠ I ruffed with the J and was overruffed so only emerged with 9 tricks.'++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++As dsLawsd points out, CyberYeti's board is a variant of the beautiful backwash squeezeOn the left, a simplified version, with South declarer.Defenders start with 3 rounds of ♣s.GIB verifies that, to succeed, declarer must ruff with ♠A.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted December 17, 2019 Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 Sir it is a backwash squeeze.I had posted a similar looking deal where an opponent got squeezed in three suits one of which was the trump suit itself.Therein it was a three card ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2019 [hv=pc=n&s=SAJT65HAD65432C65&w=SQ98HKQJTDKQJTCKQ&n=SK432H65432DAC432&d=s&v=0&a=4sppp&p=CKC2CJC5CQC3CAC6CT]300|300| Cyberyeti 'This is a contract I suspect you aren't going to make unless it's doubled. I played in 3♠, we lost a bunch because team mates doubled 4♠ and it made, I don't know the auction at their table.Follow the play through and observe the odd squeeze N is subjected to if S leads a club and W ruffs with the K, it's a kind of red suit ruffing squeeze with the added wrinkle that underruffing is also fatal. In practice with nothing to guide me and only in 3♠ I ruffed with the J and was overruffed so only emerged with 9 tricks.'++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As dsLawsd points out, this seems to be a beautiful backwash squeeze, CyberYeti.On the left, simplified version, with South declarer.Defenders start with 3 rounds of ♣s.GIB verifies that, to succeed, declarer must ruff with ♠A.[/hv] Mine is slightly different in that you can apparently succeed by discarding on the third club due to the ♠98 not being with the Q, but yes this is the form if you ruff high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Sir it is a backwash squeeze.I had posted a similar looking deal where an opponent got squeezed in three suits one of which was the trump suit itself.Therein it was a three card ending.[hv=pc=n&s=sahdca2&w=shdckqj&n=skh2d2c&e=sqhadac]399|300|AFAIR, Géza Ottlik discovered the backwash squeeze Something like this?With ♠s trump. South ruffs his ♣2 with North's ♠K?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovera Posted November 9, 2021 Report Share Posted November 9, 2021 [hv=pc=n&s=sahdca2&w=shdckqj&n=skh2d2c&e=sqhadac]399|300|AFAIR, Géza Ottlik discovered the backwash squeeze Something like this?With ♠s trump. South ruffs his ♣2 with North's ♠K?[/hv] This one is already known as Seres squeeze (by Tim Seres) where two menaces are in unfavoureble position(=1sf, 1sf or controlled in the lower hand) with an high trump (in both hands) and also the trump is squeezed!(Lovera) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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