pescetom Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 I dunno about ACBL rules, but it would surprise me if natural response styles fall under the Canape restrictions. We teach beginners to bid a 4-card spades before a 7-card minor if they don't have gameforcing strength. Walsh responses bypassing diamonds are also very common in the USA and I doubt these are restricted at any level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Here in the UK my partner and I play strong NT and 5 card majors, 2 over 1 and a forcing nt over an opening of a major. We play Kaplan Interchange over 1 Heart where a response of 1 Spade shows 0 to 4 Spades whereas 1nt promises at least 5 Spades. Any hand of game forcing strength without 5 Spades we would bid 2 of our better minor ( at least 3 cards )There is actually a form of ♠-NT interchange over 1♥ that avoids this issue as well as making 1♥ auctions more analogous to 1♠ ones. The idea is for a 1NT response to show just 4+ spades but with GF strength (like a 2/1) and use the 1♠ response as the FNT, with a subsequent 1NT rebid by Opener then showing spades. This is obviously much less popular than Standard KI but I genuinely believe it is considerably simpler to handle for most players. Once players progress up to Gazilli it tends to simplify the 1♥ auctions even more in comparison with Standard aside from having to remember that 1NT is a proxy for a suit call in the 1♠ structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsb Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 im confused about that one a lot ... why is director at the table ?? did opps called for it after they get a bad result based on ur bidding ? i mean u can surely do whatever u want director dont have to deal with psyche assumoing of course that there is no club tournament rule about it ... now if ur question is about a teaching question or information that is totally different and i guess soem already give u an answer on that one ... regards sylvain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 director dont have to deal with psycheWhy would you think this a psyche when this pair appear to agree that the 2/1 can be bid only to show strength and not based on shape? That is not a psyche but potentially a CPU and there are rules about that. The simple truth is that we do not yet have enough information to know precisely what was really the case here. I still strongly suspect a misunderstanding or miscommunication but several other scenarios are still in the frame as possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Interesting responses. The answer to your question is no, the director is flat-out wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickdey55 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Your director is wrong without a doubt, period. With two over one values and four spades it is normally best to bid the four card or longer minor or 2H after a one spade opener with five or more hearts. With five spades and game forcing values bid one spade after one heart followed by fourth suit forcing if necessary to usually indicate five spades and game going values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Share Posted October 19, 2019 Now if director is emphatically expressing his ideas (as a player) about good bridge, he is merely wrong. If he is claiming you must by law or regulations bid that way, he has his head up his ***. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Interesting responses. The answer to your question is no, the director is flat-out wrong. Just to be clear, the correctness of the bid is incidental to the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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