helene_t Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 https://tinyurl.com/yxu2x5o8 Maybep-1♠2♣-2♦2♥-2♠* shouldn't be forcing, but the explanation said that 2♥ and 2♠ were both forcing to 3♠. Nevertheless, GIB passed 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 I guess the "reason" for 2♥ being forcing to 3♠ is that it knows there's combined strength for that level. But having 2♠ as forcing makes no sense, so I guess it's just the description at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted September 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 I guess the "reason" for 2♥ being forcing to 3♠ is that it knows there's combined strength for that level. But having 2♠ as forcing makes no sense, so I guess it's just the description at fault.I sortof agree but it isn't logical - if 2♥ is forcing to 3♠ then it follows that every subsequent bid below 3♠ is forcing. Maybe GIB really means that 2♥ is forcing on opener to 3♠, but responder can pass below 3♠? That would make sense. But I suspect it is just a bug. A bit surprising, though. While it is very common that GIB passes bids which are unlimited and hence should be forcing, it is rare that GIB passes bids that are explicitly forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted September 26, 2019 Report Share Posted September 26, 2019 This is the kind of thing why BBO might want to think twice about answering complaints "GIB is completely horribly awfully bad" with "But GIB is doing well in robot tourneys". Any time an explanation is misleading, it's an advantage of GIB playing with GIB (who can rely on the internal presentation of the bidding logic, instead of the "less accurate", i.e. often completely wrong, explanations) over GIB playing with a human. I.e., to some extent its GIB who are horrible at being a partner with humans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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