straube Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 1C-1D strong, weak or GF1S-2S 4+ spades, weak with exactly 3 spades If opener has 5 spades, it's easy. If opener has 4S/5m I have a problem.For continuations looking at 2N-5+C, forcing.....3C-no fit, 0-2..........3D-4-1-3-5, f..........3H-4-3-1-5, f..........3S-?..........3N-?.....3D-no fit, 3-4.....3H-fit, 0-2.....3S-fit, 3-43C-5+D, forcing.....same steps3D-4-1-5-3, f3H-5+S, inv3S-5+S, f I'd like something better and simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 Maybe drop the fit/no fit responses 2N-GI, 5+C.....3C-club preference, weak.....3D-5D, f.....3H-5H, f.....3S-short C, weak.....3N-other (2+C then) 3C-GI, 5+D.....3D-diamond preference, weak.....3H-5H, f.....3S-short D, weak.....3N-other 3D-5S, game try 3H-4-1-5-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Why do you say"If opener has 5 spades, it's easy."? It's not. Opener needs some sort of trial bid here.We play 1♣ - 1♦1♠ - 2♠ 2NT = start of a short suit trial, usually 5 ♠s3m = natural, not forcing3♥ = long suit trial, balanced-ish3♠ = invite, usually 6♠s Note that we play opener's 1♠ as limited, 16-19.Stronger hands rebid 1♥ as 19+ any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Why do you say"If opener has 5 spades, it's easy."? It's not. Opener needs some sort of trial bid here.We play 1♣ - 1♦1♠ - 2♠ 2NT = start of a short suit trial, usually 5 ♠s3m = natural, not forcing3♥ = long suit trial, balanced-ish3♠ = invite, usually 6♠s Note that we play opener's 1♠ as limited, 16-19.Stronger hands rebid 1♥ as 19+ any Unlike your method, our 1S is unlimited, so we have a problem holding something like 23+ 4-1-3-5. We have to look consider that we might belong elsewhere than spades and we have to be able to both invite and force game opposite a hand that is 0-4 hcp and not 0-7 hcps. It would have been more precise to say that when opener holds five spades, it's "comparatively" easy because reaching a fit at the point of 2S is much easier than restarting to find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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