inquiry Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=e&s=sqt42hakdakq954ct]133|100|Scoring: IMP BPO-002DS----------W---------- N----------E1♦…………..Pass…………1♠…….…..Pass? your bid[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 BPO-002D 4♦ SOLID 6-7 card Diamond suit with 4 card Spade support: Textbook example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 4♣ splinter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I am also a 4♣ splinter bidder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 4NT RKCB. Perfect hand to use it. Anything else may work but it just complicates what's simple :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badderzboy Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 4♣ splinter too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blofeld Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I like 4♣, except that I'm not sure what I expect partner to bid now. There won't be a diamond cue, and unless the opponents have a 10 card fit no ♥ cue, either. I have a bit of sympathy for blackwood, but everything goes pear-shaped if you're missing 3 keycards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olegru Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.Bid is 4NT.If partner has 3 - will play 7♠, 2 - 6♠, just 1 - 5♠.zero - sorry partner. (But hidden singleton clubs will give me some possability escape in 5♠ even in this unlucky case) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I like 4♣, except that I'm not sure what I expect partner to bid now. There won't be a diamond cue, and unless the opponents have a 10 card fit no ♥ cue, either. I chose 4♣ in the hope that partner would do 4♥ as some last train noise in case he is looking at two key cards. He might also jump to 5♠ with, say ♠AKxxx and out. I don't like RKCB since opposite one keycard and no ♠J, I will have to guess the trump suit to make 5♠. Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 4C Agree 4d is textbook. In any case my splinter should get msg across. 18-20 pts..short clubs...long D and spades... 4nt? Goodness gracious.... my spade spots make me very nervous. We may be off 3 trump tricks and the ace of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 4♦ old fashioned solid suit with 4 card support for pard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 i *think* i said 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.Bid is 4NT. Ahhh.. another member of that breed of strong men, who have the courage to take a stand and make a decision that will lead our side to VICTORY. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I can't show my hand to the partner. It's me - who has to make a dicission about final contract. And all what I need for it is number of partners key cards.Bid is 4NT. Ahhh.. another member of that breed of strong men, who have the courage to take a stand and make a decision that will lead our side to VICTORY. :( Hmmm My reading is another player who doesn't understand what a 4♦ rebid shows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 LOL Speak for yourself, hrothgar. I've been playing that 4D rebid for five years now. If someone doesn't understand what 4D is, that one is YOU. Why? Because this is not the sort of hand where you relinquish control. Rather, it is the sort of hand where you TAKE control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 ok you are all wrong I chose 4 spades :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 please ignore my stupid post this is one I bid 4 club splinter on, I was looking at wrong board on my print out, you are all correct :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 2 Hearts I expect to get zero points for this bid, but I selected 2 hearts. Again, I want to hear partner's rebid.A 4C or a 4D rebid gets you absolutely nowhere. Partner is most likely to rebid 4S, so you are back to where you started. If, by chance partner can show 5 spades via rebidding them or raising hearts, then at least I know that I'm not sitting opposite 4 lousy spades in partner's hand. I'm looking for some way to create a forcing situation below the 4 level.This hand could make 7 or go down in 4. The 5 level is not guaranteed safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 LOL Speak for yourself, hrothgar. I've been playing that 4D rebid for five years now. If someone doesn't understand what 4D is, that one is YOU. Why? Because this is not the sort of hand where you relinquish control. Rather, it is the sort of hand where you TAKE control. Let's be clear about priorities on this hand Any Tom, Dick, or Harry will be able to safely investigate slam on this hand and can chose any one of a variety of bids to do so. Most pair's should be able to have a rational auction and make a sensible decision regarding whether the than should be played in 6 or 7... The key to this hand is determining whether the hand is to be played in Spades or NT. If you "seize" captaincy, forgoing the opportunity to show 6 solid Diamonds you give up on any chance at an intelligent exploration of 7NT as a final contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vedran Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 2 Hearts I expect to get zero points for this bid, but I selected 2 hearts. Again, I want to hear partner's rebid.A 4C or a 4D rebid gets you absolutely nowhere. Partner is most likely to rebid 4S, so you are back to where you started. If, by chance partner can show 5 spades via rebidding them or raising hearts, then at least I know that I'm not sitting opposite 4 lousy spades in partner's hand. I'm looking for some way to create a forcing situation below the level.This hand could make 7 or go down in 4. The 5 level is not guaranteed safe. i agree.i didnt think this day would come, but on this one:- i will not inform my partner about my 4 card support- or my 6 card solid suitbut rather bid the suit i have 2 cards in.it is the lowest forcing bid, and it should leave you in total control for the rest of the bidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I'm in shock. Are you actually agreeing with the 2H bid? Or are you being facetious? lolololol.Oh, well, right or wrong, at least I had a reason for it. That and $2.00 might get me a cup of coffee (inflation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 4D shows this hand - 4 card support, 6 solid Ds and a rounded suit singleton. Partner is well placed to make a decision. A 4C splinter does not do justice to the D tricks. 4NT Blackwood is very foolish as partner may have 2KC and the S are still simply not good enough for slam. I don't regard 6S -1 as "victory". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 4N. Are the 4♣ / 4♦ really passing 4♠? Sheesh! 4♦ shows the same hand without the ♥AK. It specifically shows all points concentrated in the two suits. At the table, pard rates to bid a very slooooow 4♠ with the ♠AK. Better prepare your speech to the committee now. Better yet, just bid 4N now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I don't think its unreasonable at all to not be willing to drive to the 5 level. You have no 5 level safety opposite ONE keycard. Opposite NO keycards you have no hope of making anything at the 5 level. Opposite 2 keycards alot of the time partner will be able to make a slam move over a 4m bid. Admittedly he won't always be able to and you can miss some perfecta slams but aiming for pard to have both 2 keycards and not enough to make a move over a 4 of a minor bid aims at a pretty small target considering you are going to lose whenever pard has no keycards and alot of the time he has 1 keycard which seems alot more frequent. It's not like he promised the world over there to respond to your 1D opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 4NT RKCB I don't want to show my hand to opps (only key cards are important now) and I know I can be in danger at the 5 level but ... Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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