inquiry Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 [hv=d=s&v=a&s=s63ht3dkq82cj9874]133|100|Scoring: IMP BPO-002CWest North East SouthS----------W----------N--------EPass………..Pass……….1NT………PassPass………..DBL……….Pass………2♥? your bid[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 BPO-002C 2NT It would be very helpful to have some clue what the opponent's bidding actually means... Does X show a single suited hand followed by a “paradox” response? Does double show values followed by a long suit? Does X initiate a scramble? How the hell are we supposed to have a clue what to do? To quote Al Roth “In all my years of playing bridge, I've never seen this type of bullshit sequence” Needless to say, I don't have any sensible agreements with partner so I'll bid 2NT and pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I also choose 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badderzboy Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2NT too and pray - it should be obvious I have few hearts and I didn't transfer to spades so I must have minors if partner prefers the minors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2NT for the minorsssssssssssss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Pass Tough one.What the heck is 2nt playing with world class pick up partner on this auction?Hey, perhaps the bidding is not over yet?Heck maybe the opp. have made the last guess and guessed wrong?Looks like I am out on a Limb on this one with pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2♠, the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Pass Tough one.What the heck is 2nt playing with world class pick up partner on this auction?Hey, perhaps the bidding is not over yet?Heck maybe the opp. have made the last guess and guessed wrong?Looks like I am out on a Limb on this one with pass. At least you are not on that limb by yourself, I too like pass.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 2NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 At least you are not on that limb by yourself, I too like pass.... You're selling out, Ben? Bah, ye weakling! (joking.. lol :() Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 pass here also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 PASS It's not clear that the opps have a fit or that we have one. Why risk going for numbers? Chances are, the more we can make, the more the opps can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vedran Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 dbl for takeout, to give us a chance to play 2♥X, or 3 in a minor if i havent discussed it with partner i would bid 2NT, and hope for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Silly question: What would double followed by 2NT over 2♠ show?Might be more flexible than the immediate 2NT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Silly question: What would double followed by 2NT over 2♠ show?Might be more flexible than the immediate 2NT... Silly answer, you may never get a chance to bid 2♠, so don't make it too specific. Since 2NT is scramble for the minors, this 2NT can hardly be scramble too. So i would guess it might be a whoops, i meant 2♥X as penatly, which i think it probably should not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Silly question: What would double followed by 2NT over 2♠ show?Might be more flexible than the immediate 2NT... Silly answer, you may never get a chance to bid 2♠, so don't make it too specific. Since 2NT is scramble for the minors, this 2NT can hardly be scramble too. So i would guess it might be a whoops, i meant 2♥X as penatly, which i think it probably should not be. 1. I am assuming that 2♥ SHOULD be takeout... 2. Given that 2♥ is takeout, the 2NT correction can't be natural 3. I don't see much sense in designing bidding sequences arround the assumption that partner or I misbid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 X=CARD SHOWING2NT=MINORS I passed but concede:1) this could be a double part score swing2) 2nt allows 2 suits for p to get out in3) 2nt allows Partner to convert it to play with a pass with certain hand types.4) disagree that x is takeout so I voted this as third best choice. I see many, many 2nt votes but very little discussion on why they they thought that was best. I post some reasons here but I can only assume they thought this was an easy and such an obvious bid choice that further discussion was worthless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 ok, i'll defend my pass.. i have absolutely no reason to believe playing 3♣ or 3♦, vulnerable at imps, will be plus.. seems to me the downside outweighs the upside... 'course there aren't any guarantees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 2N without strong conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 X=CARD SHOWING2NT=MINORS I passed but concede:1) this could be a double part score swing2) 2nt allows 2 suits for p to get out in3) 2nt allows Partner to convert it to play with a pass with certain hand types.4) disagree that x is takeout so I voted this as third best choice. I see many, many 2nt votes but very little discussion on why they they thought that was best. I post some reasons here but I can only assume they thought this was an easy and such an obvious bid choice that further discussion was worthless. I think 2N is best because our side has a majority of the HCP and we likely have a fit given that pard is unlikely to have 5 spades, and unlikely to have 4 hearts. If his max likely major suit holdings are 4-3 then we have 8 card fit in some minor. I think selling out to 2H is usually a losing option when you have a fit and half the deck. If 2H is making and 3m is down it doesnt matter. If 3m is making and 2H is down it doesn't matter. If 2H and 3m both make you need to bid. If 3m is down but they take the push to 3H, you need to bid (more likely in practice than theory). If 2H and 3m are both down you need to pass. The first 2 in my experience are much more likely than the last option, especially with a pure hand. Also consider they could have 9 hearts, or you could have a 9 card minor fit quite easily in which case bidding will definitely be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 PASS It's not clear that the opps have a fit or that we have one. Why risk going for numbers? Chances are, the more we can make, the more the opps can make. Pass and I totally agree ! :D Alain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 2♠, the minors. Interesting idea. On my partnership this would show 4♠+4-5 in a minor with probably 3♥ since no take out double is possible, but 2♠ might do the trick also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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