Tramticket Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 [hv=pc=n&n=sk62h5da732ct9652&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2h(Intermetiate%2011-14%20HCP%206%2B%20cards)pp3c3h]133|200[/hv] Match-point Pairs. The opponents 2♥ is described as "Intermediate 11-14, 6-card suit". You have no particular agreements against this system Partner protects with 3♣ and RHO takes a second bid. What now? 5C? 4C? Other? If you choose the low road and bid 4♣ ... [hv=pc=n&n=sk62h5da732ct9652&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2h(Intermetiate%2011-14%20HCP%206%2B%20cards)pp3c3h4c4hpp]133|200[/hv] So now you have pushed them into a gaming that they were not bidding on their own and the auction is back with you. Do you bid the game that you were not bidding last time? Or double? Or quietly pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 [hv=pc=n&n=sk62h5da732ct9652&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2h(Intermetiate%2011-14%20HCP%206%2B%20cards)pp3c3h4c4hpp?]200|300| Tramticket writes 'Match-point Pairs. The opponents 2♥ is described as "Intermediate 11-14, 6-card suit". You have no particular agreements against this system Partner protects with 3♣ and RHO takes a second bid. What now? 5C? 4C? Other? If you choose the low road and bid 4[clubs. So now you have pushed them into a gaming that they were not bidding on their own and the auction is back with you. Do you bid the game that you were not bidding last time? Or double? Or quietly pass? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Over RHO's 3♥, I rank1. 4♥ = CUE. Slight overbid.2. 5♣ = NAT.3. 4♣ = NAT. Slight underbid.Now, after LHO's 4♥, I rank1. 5♣ = NAT2. Pass = NAT but not to my taste.3. Double = PEN even less palatable. [/hv] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelicityR Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 At this vulnerability I'm inclined to bid 5♣ straight over their 3♥ bid. You have a known 10 card fit, a singleton and good cards outside the trump suit. Let them guess at the five level. I agree with Nigel. Keep it simple. 4♣ and 4♥ are bids that pussyfoot around the edges. Even if partner has the worst sort of protective hand in 4th position, and 5♣ doesn't make I believe the likelihood of 4♥ making for them is more than 50%. The 2♥ bidder (11-14 6♥) should have a maximum and an extra trump to "pre-empt" again with 3♥. We can take a three trick hit against their vulnerable game at this vulnerability. Given their unusual bidding methods, you have to take into consideration what the rest of the room might be doing, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I would have asked more about 2H, including the possible responses, but it's late for that now. Responder wasn't worth an invite over this apparently quite narrowly defined opening, yet now he can bid game vulnerable? Unless we really have to win the tournament I would reach for double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'd rather bid 6C than 4C first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted June 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'd rather bid 6C than 4C first time Are you bidding 6C expecting to make? Or as a sacrifice (against a game they don't look like bidding)? I know that partner might be fairly aggresive in protecting, she hasn't shown a huge hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Hi, I pass. Playing MP, I am fine with 4C, ... at IMPs, I would bid 5C, but playing MP, ..., MPis harder.Now your guess is as good as mine, 3H looks insane (espesially given the colors),so assuming they know what they are doing may be stretching it. I can come up easily enough with hands, that raise 3H to 4H. Most likely they have already won ( or recovered ) the board by bidding 4H.Assuming on other tables, they open 1H, raise to 2H, we may not be able to discoverour club fit to find the sacrifice, 4H should be a contract with company. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 Are you bidding 6C expecting to make? Or as a sacrifice (against a game they don't look like bidding)? I know that partner might be fairly aggresive in protecting, she hasn't shown a huge hand. no, I would bid 5 lol, I just really think 4 is very timid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 [hv=pc=n&s=sa75h962dq4cakj43&w=st94hakqt74dkcq87&n=sk62h5da732ct9652&e=sqj83hj83djt9865c&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2hpp3c3h4c4hpp5cppp]399|300[/hv] No, I don't think much of west's 3♥ bid. But it did give me a problem. I mis-judged here. I think that it is a close decision between 4♣ and 5♣ and I wavered between the two bids. But I don't want to punish partner for protecting at MPs and elected only to bid four. Bidding four and then taking a second dip and bidding five when 4♥ came back was surely wrong - I should either raise to five straight away or raise to four and pass the opps 4♥. On this occasion, 4♥ will fail and 5♣ is likely to be at least two-off. So I'm better off keeping low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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