mikeh Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 I think that west’s second call is close. However, while we have every reason to think that 3H may miss a decent game, the opps. Are white and one of them is preemption. So we have more room were he to have a great hand. That he did is coincidental, but nobody can say it’s implausible One has to compromise: show a good one suiter, with some extras. Now the risk of getting overboard is clear. Four slam purposes, we need a side A or more. That’s what happened here and while I think the diamond cards are not worth much, the rest of the hand is good, and the diamonds may let partner create a morton’s Fork coup later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted April 30, 2019 Report Share Posted April 30, 2019 Ugh... so nowadays no one opens 3H with West's hand? Wasn't that a textbook weak 3 opening?You must have different textbooks. Terence Reese for instance cites the following as an ideal 3M opening: KQJ9832 7 T83 62. None of his examples of opening 3 bid have more than a J on the side. Goren simply says that most of the points should be in your long suit, but this hand doesn't even meet that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 [hv=pc=n&w=sq83hkqt9642d3ck7&e=skjt7hj7dkq6caqjt&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1h3ddp4hp4n(RKC)p5d(1%20or%204)p5hppp]266|200|ahydra writes 'IMPs, none vul. Any blame for getting to 5 missing three aces, or just unlucky that we had virtually every other point in the pack?'++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IMO, mostly bad luck.[/hv]You guys are being harsh on West. If East had ♠KJxx ♥xx ♦xxx ♣Axxx and EW played in 3♥+1 who'd get the blame? Yes I know there might be a ruff, but still I think it's easy to visualise many minimum doubles of 3♦ that would make game decent.Here are some bids I hate much much more:- The suggested 4♥ opening. I just don't get it. Why? We have two defensive cards, we have good defense against 4♠, I just see no reason to bid one more than the normal 3♥.- Double. Isn't this a completely normal 3N bid? - 4N. This is way too aggressive - I think two keycards+♥Q is one of the most likely hands for partner and we are in 6♥ off two keycards for no reason. I am doubtful any move is justified, as 5♥ will often be down on a ruff, and we need a lot of cards from partner; but if we do move, it has to be another bid. I admit I am glad it is no longer myself against the rest of the world in this thread.Cherdano might not welcome my support but I respect his arguments.You must have different textbooks. Terence Reese for instance cites the following as an ideal 3M opening: KQJ9832 7 T83 62. None of his examples of opening 3 bid have more than a J on the side. Goren simply says that most of the points should be in your long suit, but this hand doesn't even meet that.IMO, Terence Reese would have tolerated a 3♥ opening on this hand. Famously, he criticized predictable preempts: "A preempt, known to be weak, is a blunt sword ". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 IMO, Terence Reese would have tolerated a 3♥ opening on this hand. Famously, he criticized predictable preempts: "A preempt, known to be weak, is a blunt sword ". Yes that's very Reese B-) I was just pointing out that this is more a case of textbook limits than of textbook ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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