Looking for Seven

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Teams of 4 Match

 

You could have opened 2♣, but it doesn't always work well with two-suited hands, so you choose to start low. After reversing partner's 3♣ is forcing and shows 3+ support. How are you intending to develop the auction?

[Cyberyeti]

For us, 4♦ would ask aces, 4N would be exclusion for diamonds, so I don't want to consume that much space.

 

I would bid 3♥ shaping out.

 

My only question is what did 3♣ show ? This is more a "do you have any special agreements about 2N?" question.

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My only question is what did 3♣ show ? This is more a "do you have any special agreements about 2N?" question.

 

2NT would be a Lebensohl type bid, so 3♣ shows values and is forcing.

[Cyberyeti]

2NT would be a Lebensohl type bid, so 3♣ shows values and is forcing.

 

So presumably shows 3+ clubs ? Do you play inverted raises and can they contain 4M, also do you play a form of jump shift with 5♠ 4♣

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So presumably shows 3+ clubs ? Do you play inverted raises and can they contain 4M, also do you play a form of jump shift with 5♠ 4♣

 

We would show a 4+ card major before raising a minor (unless very strong) and there is no reason to think that partner can't have a four-card club suit. But yes, we play inverted raises and since 1♣ promises 4+, a raise can be made on a four-card suit.

[Cyberyeti]

We would show a 4+ card major before raising a minor (unless very strong) and there is no reason to think that partner can't have a four-card club suit. But yes, we play inverted raises and since 1♣ promises 4+, a raise can be made on a four-card suit.

 

In that case I definitely bid 3♥ to show the 6th club, so partner will show the Q with xxxx

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In that case I definitely bid 3♥ to show the 6th club, so partner will show the Q with xxxx

 

Yes, I think that this makes a lot of sense.

[Cyberyeti]

Yes, I think that this makes a lot of sense.

 

Well it does, unless you're of the US school that almost always opens 1♥ with the 5-6 in ♥/m, where 3♥ may well be a cue

[nullve]

My bid:

 

3♥ = GF, 5H6+C

[fromageGB]

Well I am sure there could be a number of "other"s. 4NT.

 

I wouldn't have started this way, as I'd open 1♥, but given the start, I would say there is little point in patterning unless you have a method/style of showing your aces to let partner make the slam decisions. This would be a good hand for that. Then after patterning, you bid a void 4♦ (if this is not ace asking) to tell responder to ask. It has to be a void, as why would you bid one of two known singletons? Perfect.

 

However, in the real world I can't do that, so as I am not patterning I am immediately ace asking. I can always stop in 5♣ if partner has nothing. For me 4♦ is normally "ace asking", and with a void an ace ask would be the void suit itself, but when the void suit is the asking suit, the void-showing ace ask is NT. So 4NT is my bid.

 

We play a non-standard ace reply, where there are 6 keycards which include the trump Q, and the replies are in modulus 4 steps, so normally step1 = 1 or 5 aces, step 2 = 2 or 6 etc, and bidding trumps is always 0 or 4. With 4NT as the void-showing ace ask, here step1 = trumps = 0 or 4, step 2 is 1 or 5, etc, ignoring the ace of diamonds as it is my void suit. With this hand I could stop in 5♣ if he bids that, but I would take a gamble on a spade K, a 4th club, or heart Q etc and bid 6. If he replies with step2 then I continue with a 5♠ king denial, and if he has that then he will show me whether 7 is there by the use of 5NT. He bids 5NT without any extras, and as he knows I have the heart K, the Q or a doubleton is gold dust. Extra spade tricks or top diamonds would do of course. Over 5NT denial I sign off in 6♣. With such an extra he bids another K denial if there was one, but we are out of kings, having them all, so he would bid 7♣.