hrothgar Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I have seldom heard such nonsense in all my life. Although I admit that both hands have to take very optimistic views of their holdings it is a million miles away from anything even remotely close to cheating. My partner of choice and I, playing 2/1 GF, could bid the hands as follows:1♦ - 1NT3♦ - 3♥ (Cue bid agreeing ♦)3♠ (Q) - 4♦ (No ♣ control)4♥ (Q) - 4♠ (Q)6♦ - P Not so hard really was it? How would your auction differ if North had one more card in either major? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I have seldom heard such nonsense in all my life. Although I admit that both hands have to take very optimistic views of their holdings it is a million miles away from anything even remotely close to cheating. My partner of choice and I, playing 2/1 GF, could bid the hands as follows:1♦ - 1NT3♦ - 3♥ (Cue bid agreeing ♦)3♠ (Q) - 4♦ (No ♣ control)4♥ (Q) - 4♠ (Q)6♦ - P Not so hard really was it? Great bidding looking at both hands. If I look at all 4 hands, I can also bid to contracts that depend on very lucky breaks, and avoid contracts that go down on bad or awful breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 I have seldom heard such nonsense in all my life. Although I admit that both hands have to take very optimistic views of their holdings it is a million miles away from anything even remotely close to cheating. My partner of choice and I, playing 2/1 GF, could bid the hands as follows:1♦ - 1NT3♦ - 3♥ (Cue bid agreeing ♦)3♠ (Q) - 4♦ (No ♣ control)4♥ (Q) - 4♠ (Q)6♦ - P Not so hard really was it?No, it's not so hard if opps' silence convinces North that South has 0-1 clubs and not e.g. ♣Kx. But North might feel more confident about that after 1♦-1N (NAT unBAL or 20-22 BAL \\ 0-12, NAT)2♦-2♠ ("16-18"*, any \\ GF relay)2N-3♣ (4+ H or 1-suited \\ relay)3♦-.... (1-suited \\ ---) in my system: Here are are 100 random deals consistent with South's bidding (modulo finer points of hand evaluation) and North having the above hand: 1. A 5 K J T 9 7 3 2 Q 8 6 4 A T 9 8 7 K J 6 Q 5 4 3 2 9 8 3 K Q A J 7 6 4 2 T 5 J T 8 5 4 2 7 6 A K 3 Q 9 2. A 5 K J 7 6 3 Q 8 2 T 9 4 A T J 3 K Q 9 8 7 6 5 4 2 9 8 3 A Q K J 6 5 4 2 T 7 J T 8 5 4 2 9 7 6 3 A K Q - 3. A 5 T 7 6 K Q 3 J 9 8 4 2 A T 9 7 6 5 2 K J 3 Q 8 4 9 8 3 T Q J 7 6 4 2 A K 5 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 6 3 A 9 7 4. A 5 Q J 9 7 6 3 2 K 8 T 4 A T 9 7 8 5 K Q J 6 4 3 2 9 8 3 J 6 2 A K Q 7 5 4 T J T 8 5 4 2 9 A Q 7 K 6 3 5. A 5 J 9 7 4 T 2 K Q 8 6 3 A T J 7 4 3 K Q 6 9 8 5 2 9 8 3 J 6 5 2 A K Q T 7 4 - J T 8 5 4 2 6 A 3 K Q 9 7 6. A 5 Q 9 7 6 3 4 2 K J T 8 A T K Q 7 5 2 J 9 3 8 6 4 9 8 3 J 7 A K Q T 6 5 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 7 A K Q 9 6 3 7. A 5 K Q J 8 7 2 3 T 9 6 4 A T 7 6 4 Q 9 3 K J 8 5 2 9 8 3 K 7 A Q J T 6 5 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 9 7 A Q K 6 3 8. A 5 9 7 6 3 2 K T 8 Q J 4 A T Q 9 6 4 3 K J 8 7 5 2 9 8 3 - A Q J T 5 4 2 K 7 6 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 6 K 3 A 7 9. A 5 Q T 9 6 4 K 3 J 8 7 2 A T K 5 3 Q 2 J 9 8 7 6 4 9 8 3 5 A K Q J T 6 2 7 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 3 K 7 6 10. A 5 Q 3 2 T 8 4 K J 9 7 6 A T Q 9 7 4 3 5 K J 8 6 2 9 8 3 4 2 A K Q J 7 6 5 T J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 A K 9 3 11. A 5 T 9 4 2 Q K J 8 7 6 3 A T Q 9 8 4 J 6 3 K 7 5 2 9 8 3 Q A K J T 7 6 2 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 6 3 A 9 7 12. A 5 Q J 8 6 K T 2 9 7 4 3 A T 4 3 2 K 7 5 Q J 9 8 6 9 8 3 K T A Q J 7 5 2 6 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A 7 6 3 K Q 9 13. A 5 T 9 4 3 Q J K 8 7 6 2 A T 7 2 Q 9 8 K J 6 5 4 3 9 8 3 Q 5 2 A K J T 6 4 7 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 3 A 9 K 14. A 5 K 8 3 2 J T Q 9 7 6 4 A T 9 6 5 3 2 K 7 Q J 8 4 9 8 3 T 5 A K Q 7 6 2 J 4 J T 8 5 4 2 K 7 A 6 3 Q 9 15. A 5 K 9 8 4 3 Q J T 7 6 2 A T K Q 9 7 5 2 3 J 8 6 4 9 8 3 4 A K Q T 6 5 2 J 7 J T 8 5 4 2 9 A 3 K Q 7 6 16. A 5 K T 6 3 2 8 Q J 9 7 4 A T J 9 8 5 6 4 K Q 7 3 2 9 8 3 7 A Q T 6 5 4 2 K J J T 8 5 4 2 9 7 3 A K Q 6 17. A 5 8 7 6 4 2 K 9 3 Q J T A T J 9 5 4 Q K 8 7 6 3 2 9 8 3 K T A Q J 7 6 2 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 3 A 7 6 K 9 18. A 5 Q J T 9 7 4 3 K 6 8 2 A T Q 5 4 J 8 2 K 9 7 6 3 9 8 3 5 A K Q J T 2 7 6 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A K Q 9 7 6 3 19. A 5 T 9 8 7 Q 6 K J 4 3 2 A T Q 9 8 3 2 7 5 K J 6 4 9 8 3 Q 5 4 A K J T 6 2 7 J T 8 5 4 2 6 A Q 3 K 9 7 20. A 5 J T 9 8 4 K Q 3 7 6 2 A T Q J 6 3 K 9 8 7 5 4 2 9 8 3 Q 4 A K J T 6 2 7 5 J T 8 5 4 2 7 6 9 A K Q 3 21. A 5 J 9 6 K 7 Q T 8 4 3 2 A T 9 8 2 K Q J 7 6 5 4 3 9 8 3 Q J 5 A K T 7 6 4 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 7 6 K 9 3 22. A 5 Q 9 7 4 K J 2 T 8 6 3 A T Q J 8 6 5 7 2 K 9 4 3 9 8 3 - A K Q 6 5 4 2 J T 7 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 7 3 K A 6 23. A 5 J T 8 2 K 6 Q 9 7 4 3 A T Q 6 5 4 3 2 K 7 J 9 8 9 8 3 T K Q J 7 6 5 4 A 2 J T 8 5 4 2 7 3 A Q K 9 6 24. A 5 J 9 8 7 3 T 6 4 K Q 2 A T 8 5 2 K 7 Q J 9 6 4 3 9 8 3 7 A K Q J 6 2 T 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 7 K 6 3 25. A 5 K T 9 3 2 Q J 8 7 6 4 A T K 8 2 9 7 6 Q J 5 4 3 9 8 3 J 6 A K Q T 5 2 7 4 J T 8 5 4 2 9 7 3 K Q 6 A 26. A 5 J 9 6 Q 4 3 K T 8 7 2 A T K Q 8 6 4 9 J 7 5 3 2 9 8 3 7 6 A K J T 5 4 2 Q J T 8 5 4 2 K 9 6 A Q 7 3 27. A 5 K J 8 4 3 2 9 Q T 7 6 A T Q 8 5 4 K 3 2 J 9 7 6 9 8 3 7 A Q J 5 4 2 K T 6 J T 8 5 4 2 9 3 A Q 6 K 7 28. A 5 K T 6 2 Q 7 3 J 9 8 4 A T 5 4 3 2 K J Q 9 8 7 6 9 8 3 K 7 A Q J T 6 5 2 4 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 7 K A 6 3 29. A 5 K Q T 4 2 6 3 J 9 8 7 A T 9 6 4 3 Q 7 K J 8 5 2 9 8 3 Q T 5 2 A K J 7 6 4 - J T 8 5 4 2 - A Q 9 K 7 6 3 30. A 5 K Q T 9 J 8 7 6 4 3 2 A T Q J 9 6 3 K 5 2 8 7 4 9 8 3 Q 5 A K J T 6 4 2 7 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 6 K 3 A 9 7 31. A 5 7 6 4 2 8 K Q J T 9 3 A T Q 3 K 7 4 J 9 8 6 5 2 9 8 3 T 6 5 A K Q J 7 4 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 K 9 7 6 A 3 Q 32. A 5 T 9 8 Q 6 4 K J 7 3 2 A T K 8 6 5 J 9 7 Q 4 3 2 9 8 3 J 6 A K Q T 5 2 7 4 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 9 6 A 7 3 33. A 5 J T 7 2 Q 6 3 K 9 8 4 A T Q 9 7 6 3 K 8 J 5 4 2 9 8 3 T A K Q 7 6 4 J 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K 6 3 Q 7 A 9 34. A 5 8 6 4 3 2 J K Q T 9 7 A T 9 7 5 2 K J 6 Q 8 4 3 9 8 3 7 K Q T 5 4 2 A J 6 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 A K 9 3 35. A 5 8 3 J 7 2 K Q T 9 6 4 A T 9 8 7 6 2 Q K J 5 4 3 9 8 3 Q 6 5 4 A K J T 7 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 7 6 A K 3 Q 9 36. A 5 Q 9 7 2 J 3 K T 8 6 4 A T Q 8 7 2 J 4 K 9 6 5 3 9 8 3 T 6 A K Q J 5 4 2 7 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 6 A 9 7 3 37. A 5 K J T 7 3 2 Q 8 6 9 4 A T K J 4 6 2 Q 9 8 7 5 3 9 8 3 7 A K Q J T 4 6 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K 9 3 A 6 Q 7 38. A 5 Q 8 6 4 2 9 K J T 7 3 A T 5 4 3 Q J 7 K 9 8 6 2 9 8 3 T 4 A K Q 7 6 5 2 J J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 6 K 7 A 3 39. A 5 T 7 4 K 9 2 Q J 8 6 3 A T K Q 5 4 J 9 8 7 6 3 2 9 8 3 5 2 A K Q T 7 6 J 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 3 K 7 6 40. A 5 Q J 8 7 3 K 2 T 9 6 4 A T 9 6 4 K 8 Q J 7 5 3 2 9 8 3 J T A Q 7 5 4 2 K 6 J T 8 5 4 2 A 7 6 K Q 3 9 41. A 5 J 8 7 4 3 T K Q 9 6 2 A T 6 4 2 Q 8 3 K J 9 7 5 9 8 3 T 7 6 A K Q J 5 4 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 7 3 K 9 A Q 6 42. A 5 T 7 3 2 K 4 Q J 9 8 6 A T K J 5 4 8 7 Q 9 6 3 2 9 8 3 5 4 A K Q J T 7 6 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 3 A 7 6 9 43. A 5 K T 8 2 Q 3 J 9 7 6 4 A T Q J 8 7 5 4 K 2 9 6 3 9 8 3 - A J 7 6 5 4 2 K Q T J T 8 5 4 2 9 6 3 A Q K 7 44. A 5 J T 7 3 2 K Q 6 9 8 4 A T K J 5 4 3 Q 9 8 7 6 2 9 8 3 4 A K Q T 7 6 J 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K 7 3 A 9 6 Q 45. A 5 K Q 3 2 9 6 J T 8 7 4 A T J 6 4 3 5 K Q 9 8 7 2 9 8 3 J 6 A K Q T 7 4 2 5 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 A K 9 3 46. A 5 9 7 6 4 2 K 3 Q J T 8 A T J 6 2 K Q 7 9 8 5 4 3 9 8 3 J 7 A Q 6 5 4 2 K T J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 3 A 7 K 6 47. A 5 J 9 8 2 K Q 3 T 7 6 4 A T K J 6 4 2 Q 9 8 7 5 3 9 8 3 Q 4 A K J 7 6 5 T 2 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 6 K 9 3 A 7 48. A 5 Q 9 6 3 2 K T J 8 7 4 A T Q J 9 6 4 8 2 K 7 5 3 9 8 3 K 7 5 A Q T 6 4 2 J J T 8 5 4 2 - A K 7 Q 9 6 3 49. A 5 Q J 8 7 K 9 4 T 6 3 2 A T K Q 7 6 4 2 J 3 9 8 5 9 8 3 T 6 A K Q 7 5 4 J 2 J T 8 5 4 2 9 K Q A 7 6 3 50. A 5 7 3 2 K 9 Q J T 8 6 4 A T Q J 6 3 2 K 8 7 9 5 4 9 8 3 Q 6 A K T 7 5 4 J 2 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 K 9 A 3 51. A 5 Q 6 4 3 2 T 8 K J 9 7 A T K 7 4 2 Q J 8 9 6 5 3 9 8 3 T 4 A K Q J 7 6 2 5 J T 8 5 4 2 7 6 Q A K 9 3 52. A 5 T 9 4 3 K Q J 8 7 6 2 A T K 8 7 4 3 2 Q J 9 6 5 9 8 3 6 5 2 A K Q J T 4 7 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 7 K 6 3 53. A 5 8 6 9 7 2 K Q J T 4 3 A T 9 8 7 6 5 3 K J 2 Q 4 9 8 3 T 6 A K Q 7 5 4 J 2 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 7 A K 6 3 54. A 5 Q T 3 K J 9 8 7 6 4 2 A T 9 7 4 Q J 6 K 8 5 3 2 9 8 3 K T 7 2 A Q J 6 5 4 - J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 3 A 7 9 6 55. A 5 J T 8 7 6 K 3 2 Q 9 4 A T Q 8 6 3 K J 9 7 5 4 2 9 8 3 T K Q J 7 6 2 A 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A 9 6 K Q 7 3 56. A 5 7 Q 8 4 K J T 9 6 3 2 A T J 7 4 3 2 Q 6 5 K 9 8 9 8 3 J T A K Q 7 5 4 6 2 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 7 3 K 6 57. A 5 K 9 8 7 4 3 2 J 6 Q T A T - J 9 8 K Q 7 6 5 4 3 2 9 8 3 J 6 A K Q 7 5 4 2 T J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 9 6 A 7 3 58. A 5 J T 9 7 4 3 Q K 8 6 2 A T K J 6 4 2 7 3 Q 9 8 5 9 8 3 T A K Q 7 6 5 4 2 J J T 8 5 4 2 7 A 9 K Q 6 3 59. A 5 K J T 8 3 2 Q 9 7 6 4 A T K Q 6 5 4 3 2 J 9 8 7 9 8 3 4 A K Q J T 6 7 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 3 K Q 9 A 7 6 60. A 5 Q J T 8 7 K 4 9 6 3 2 A T 7 6 3 K 9 2 Q J 8 5 4 9 8 3 K Q 7 6 A J T 5 4 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 7 A K Q 9 6 3 61. A 5 9 8 7 4 2 K T 6 Q J 3 A T K J 5 Q 9 8 7 6 4 3 2 9 8 3 T 7 A K J 6 4 2 Q 5 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 3 K 9 6 7 62. A 5 Q J T 6 3 K 9 8 7 4 2 A T Q 9 8 6 5 4 K J 7 3 2 9 8 3 Q A K J T 6 4 2 7 5 J T 8 5 4 2 9 6 3 A 7 K Q 63. A 5 K J 8 4 3 2 T 7 Q 9 6 A T 8 7 6 5 2 Q J K 9 4 3 9 8 3 Q A K J 7 6 4 T 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 6 A K 9 Q 7 3 64. A 5 K J 7 6 3 2 Q T 4 9 8 A T 6 5 4 9 2 K Q J 8 7 3 9 8 3 J T A K Q 7 5 2 6 4 J T 8 5 4 2 9 3 A Q K 7 6 65. A 5 T 8 7 4 3 K 6 2 Q J 9 A T 8 7 5 Q 6 K J 9 4 3 2 9 8 3 K T A Q J 6 5 2 7 4 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 9 A 7 6 3 66. A 5 K 8 T 2 Q J 9 7 6 4 3 A T J 9 7 6 2 Q 5 4 K 8 3 9 8 3 J 7 6 A K Q T 5 4 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 Q 6 3 A K 9 7 67. A 5 Q J T 9 7 3 K 4 2 8 6 A T K 6 5 Q J 9 8 7 4 3 2 9 8 3 - A Q J T 7 6 5 K 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 A 7 6 3 K Q 9 68. A 5 Q T 8 6 2 K 4 J 9 7 3 A T 8 7 4 2 Q 9 3 K J 6 5 9 8 3 4 2 A K Q T 7 6 5 J J T 8 5 4 2 9 3 Q A K 7 6 69. A 5 J T 7 4 2 K 3 Q 9 8 6 A T Q 8 7 2 5 3 K J 9 6 4 9 8 3 K 4 A Q J T 6 5 2 7 J T 8 5 4 2 9 3 A K Q 7 6 70. A 5 K Q 8 7 3 J 9 4 T 6 2 A T J 8 4 3 2 Q 6 K 9 7 5 9 8 3 - A K Q T 7 6 4 J 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 7 A 9 6 3 71. A 5 4 3 9 8 6 K Q J T 7 2 A T Q 8 6 3 K J 9 7 5 4 2 9 8 3 J 6 2 A K Q T 7 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 6 3 A K 7 72. A 5 T 8 4 2 3 K Q J 9 7 6 A T Q 9 7 6 5 4 2 K J 3 8 9 8 3 Q A K T 7 5 2 J 6 4 J T 8 5 4 2 3 A K 6 Q 9 7 73. A 5 T 8 7 4 3 Q 6 K J 9 2 A T 8 7 6 3 K 5 Q J 9 4 2 9 8 3 T 4 A K Q J 7 6 5 2 - J T 8 5 4 2 Q 3 9 A K 7 6 74. A 5 K J 9 6 3 Q 8 7 T 4 2 A T K Q 3 8 7 J 9 6 5 4 2 9 8 3 7 6 A K Q J 5 4 T 2 J T 8 5 4 2 9 6 3 A 7 K Q 75. A 5 T 9 8 7 3 2 K Q 4 J 6 A T 9 6 4 3 8 7 K Q J 5 2 9 8 3 J T A K Q 7 5 4 6 2 J T 8 5 4 2 A K 6 Q 9 7 3 76. A 5 Q T 8 6 K J 7 9 4 3 2 A T J 8 6 5 K Q 9 7 4 3 2 9 8 3 7 6 A Q J T 5 4 2 K J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 7 3 A K 6 77. A 5 K 9 4 3 Q J T 8 7 6 2 A T 9 8 7 3 2 Q J 4 K 6 5 9 8 3 2 A K Q 7 5 4 J T 6 J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 3 K 9 7 6 78. A 5 6 4 K Q 9 J T 8 7 3 2 A T J 9 7 4 3 K 8 6 Q 5 2 9 8 3 5 A K Q T 4 2 J 7 6 J T 8 5 4 2 A K Q 7 6 3 9 79. A 5 Q J T 4 3 K 7 9 8 6 2 A T Q 5 K 6 3 J 9 8 7 4 2 9 8 3 A 2 K Q J T 7 6 5 4 J T 8 5 4 2 K 7 6 3 A 9 Q 80. A 5 J 9 8 7 3 2 Q T 4 K 6 A T 7 6 4 K 9 Q J 8 5 3 2 9 8 3 K 7 A Q T 5 4 2 J 6 J T 8 5 4 2 7 3 K Q A 9 6 81. A 5 K T 8 7 4 2 J 9 6 Q 3 A T 4 2 Q 8 K J 9 7 6 5 3 9 8 3 J A K Q 7 6 4 2 T 5 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 9 7 A 6 3 82. A 5 Q J T 9 8 4 2 K 7 6 3 A T 5 4 3 K 2 Q J 9 8 7 6 9 8 3 K 6 5 A Q J T 7 2 4 J T 8 5 4 2 - K 7 3 A Q 9 6 83. A 5 Q 9 6 J 8 7 K T 4 3 2 A T 9 4 3 2 K 5 Q J 8 7 6 9 8 3 7 5 4 A K Q J T 2 6 J T 8 5 4 2 A 6 3 K 7 Q 9 84. A 5 T 8 6 K Q 9 J 7 4 3 2 A T 9 8 7 5 Q 6 2 K J 4 3 9 8 3 A T 7 K Q J 6 5 2 4 J T 8 5 4 2 A 9 6 K Q 7 3 85. A 5 K J 9 8 3 Q 2 T 7 6 4 A T K 8 6 5 4 3 Q 9 J 7 2 9 8 3 4 A K Q J T 5 2 7 6 J T 8 5 4 2 6 A 9 K Q 7 3 86. A 5 K Q J 3 T 8 7 9 6 4 2 A T K J 8 6 7 Q 9 5 4 3 2 9 8 3 7 A K Q J 6 5 4 2 T J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 6 3 A 9 7 87. A 5 Q J 8 7 6 3 2 T K 9 4 A T 9 7 5 4 K Q J 8 6 3 2 9 8 3 2 A K J T 5 4 Q 7 6 J T 8 5 4 2 Q A 7 6 K 9 3 88. A 5 8 4 K 6 2 Q J T 9 7 3 A T 8 6 5 3 2 J K Q 9 7 4 9 8 3 7 6 4 A K Q T 5 2 J J T 8 5 4 2 A Q 9 K 7 3 6 89. A 5 T 9 3 K J 8 Q 7 6 4 2 A T K J 7 3 2 Q 5 9 8 6 4 9 8 3 7 A K Q J T 6 4 2 5 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 6 3 - A 9 7 90. A 5 Q J T 9 7 4 3 K 8 6 2 A T J 7 5 4 K 9 Q 8 6 3 2 9 8 3 4 A K Q J T 7 6 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 9 7 3 A K Q 6 91. A 5 Q 9 6 3 7 4 K J T 8 2 A T Q 6 4 K 8 5 J 9 7 3 2 9 8 3 J 7 4 A K Q T 6 5 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K 9 6 A 3 Q 7 92. A 5 Q J 4 2 T 6 K 9 8 7 3 A T Q J 9 6 4 2 K 8 7 5 3 9 8 3 J 6 A K Q T 7 5 2 4 J T 8 5 4 2 9 6 A Q 3 K 7 93. A 5 K T 9 7 3 2 Q J 6 8 4 A T Q 2 K J 7 9 8 6 5 4 3 9 8 3 Q T 7 A K J 6 5 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K 6 Q A 9 7 3 94. A 5 K J 7 4 3 T 9 8 Q 6 2 A T K 9 6 Q 5 J 8 7 4 3 2 9 8 3 7 A K T 6 5 4 Q J 2 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 3 A K 9 95. A 5 Q 8 3 2 K T 6 J 9 7 4 A T J 6 3 K 2 Q 9 8 7 5 4 9 8 3 Q 4 A K J 7 5 2 T 6 J T 8 5 4 2 Q 7 6 3 A 9 K 96. A 5 Q 6 4 2 K J T 9 8 7 3 A T 9 6 3 K 8 4 Q J 7 5 2 9 8 3 J 7 5 A K Q 6 4 2 T J T 8 5 4 2 A 7 6 3 K Q 9 - 97. A 5 Q J T 9 6 4 2 K 8 7 3 A T Q 3 2 K 9 J 8 7 6 5 4 9 8 3 A 2 K Q J 6 5 4 T 7 J T 8 5 4 2 9 K Q 7 A 6 3 98. A 5 Q J 6 4 3 K 8 T 9 7 2 A T 9 6 4 K Q J 8 7 5 3 2 9 8 3 T 5 A K Q J 7 6 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 9 7 3 A 6 - 99. A 5 K 8 3 2 J T 6 Q 9 7 4 A T Q 4 3 2 8 5 K J 9 7 6 9 8 3 6 4 A K J 7 5 2 Q T J T 8 5 4 2 Q 9 6 A K 7 3 100. A 5 T 9 7 4 3 K Q 6 J 8 2 A T 9 8 6 4 3 K Q J 7 5 2 9 8 3 A K Q J 7 6 5 T 4 2 J T 8 5 4 2 K Q 7 3 A 9 6 Generated 31228 hands Produced 100 hands Initial random seed 1555362258 Time needed 0.031 sec Now take a look at the EW cards on the deals where South has 2-3 clubs. Don't you think opps would interfere over 1♦ or 1N on the vast majority of those deals? Btw, I believe my auction at IMPs would continue ....-3♥ (--- \\ relay)4♦-4♥ (3361 \\ key card ask with diamonds agreed)4♠-4N (even # of key cards \\ trump Q ask)5N-6♦ (trump Q, ♥K, ♠K, no ♥Q \\ contract)P. It's harder at MPs, of course, since belly-landing in 5♦ after e.g. ....-4N (--- \\ trump Q ask)5♣-.... (no trump Q \\ ---) is not really an option. * or more precisely: meets the rule of 25 (like the unbalanced part of a Precision 1♣ opening), but not the rule of 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rmnka447 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Playing 2/1 with strong NT, 5cM, I think 1 ♦ - 1 NT3 ♦ - 3 NT would be most probable. Playing K-S (2/1, weak NT, 5cM), after 1 ♦, responder has a choice of 2 bids -- 2 C which isn't a GF or 2 NT. 1 NT is defined as only 5-8 in this system to provide an escape with a poor hand with no 4cM opposite a "strong NT" type hand. Whichever response is chosen again probably leads to 3 NT at MPS. Probing for a slam that makes because of a perfect mesh of the hands might be an academic exercise, but probably isn't going to happen in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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