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Would you open this hand in first seat?


  

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  1. 1. Would you open this in first seat? - vul v nvul



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Weak 2N ? I play a weak 1N and yes this was very common here, getting a bit less common but still very common at lower levels.

 

It is known as the lowest preempt in the book with good reason.

 

Sorry - I meant 1NT :)

 

I know people swear by it and I must admit I hate it when people use it - so obviously it is effective.

 

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Playing weak NT, this isn't even close, yes always. Playing strong nt, I like my bid less, but I'm still popping it open a diamond. It's a little better if we are at least playing Spiral. Regular partner will never believe I have this much strength if I have passed.

 

We just added spiral - and that I think does make it an easier choice for me. I did not open - and the hand was passed out. With spiral - I think I would open now.

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Those who say yes "automatic" seem to have a short memory for the times opening this garbage has gone horribly wrong. I have certainly had some 100% results from passing this sort of hand, accompanied by rage from the 4th seater who says "everyone opens that hand!" (chuckle, chuckle, I didn't).

Either partner has a good hand and carries you to a bad 3NT.. "oh unlucky partner, going down in a balanced 24 count", or opps have 4/4 spades and neither opens or partner has garbage and you go 300 off.

As another responder has said, you need overall statistics, not just the memory of occasional triumph!

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Kaplan and Sheinwold would never systematically open this hand non-vulnerable. Vulnerable they would not open a weak NT with 12 points unless it had 2 & 1/2 or more quick tricks. They were a great partnership, until Betty left her husband Sheinwold to marry Edgar Kaplan. 11.6 points according to Kaplan(KnR points).
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