Would you open this hand in first seat?

[phoenixmj]

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ew is vulnerable

ns is not vulnerable

[eagles123]

yes, not close

[rmnka447]

I'll open it -- 2 QTs and a 12 count with some intermediates, not even close.

[TMorris]

There are a few 12 counts I won't open ( passed Jxxx Q109 Axxx KQ vul in 3rd quite recently rather than open a weak NT) but not many. This is an automatic opening for me.

[neilkaz]

I open

[sfi]

Searching for that rare unanimous poll?

[billyjef]

Yes, unless I was playing Roth Stone ;)

[redbird97]

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ew is vulnerable

ns is not vulnerable

Automatic. You have easy rebids no matter what partner responds and a 12 count.

[msjennifer]

Soir,And why not ? 12HCP.No wasted points(except perhaps CQ .We don't consider it wasted). 2 honor tricks and only 6 losers,Good support in 3 suits.One does not need any thing more.Easy rebid is an added virtue.

[Tramticket]

Easy 1NT for us.

[mdgraham]

If playing a 12-14 1NT, yes. But I wouldn't be overly sanguine about it.

 

If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.

[pescetom]

1D playing a strong NT, not even close.

[nudnikbp]

One diamond, then 1NT over partner's one spade response. Two quick tricks, twelve high card points, no reason not to open.

[stev1998]

I evaluate this hand like this

12 HCP so far so good

No aces that is a minus deduct a point

touching honours in the red suits thats a plus back to 12 again. 2 3 4 4 shape is poor but the points are in the long suits and no wasteage in spades so we break even again.

 

So we have bare opening and the quetion now is

what happens if you open 1D and partner says 1H ?

You are asking for trouble bidding 1NT with a doubleton spade

and 2C sound 5 4 in the minors.

If you have an agreement with partner that you can raise hearts with 3 then you can open. But you cannot spring a 3 card raise on him without prior agreement

If you don't then I think pass is best and wait developments

Of course if it goes 1D 1S then you have a easy 1NT and everyone will wonder why if you pass in the first place

[gordontd]

If playing a 12-14 1NT, yes. But I wouldn't be overly sanguine about it.

 

If playing a 15-17 1NT, yes, 1C. Easy rebid over anything pard bids.

1C-(1S)-X-(P)

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[hrothgar]

Obvious opening. Not even close.

[eagles123]

that opening isn't 100% on the vote is absolutely bizarre

[torgums]

I don't open balanced 12 counts. However I played with a partner who used any excuse to open for about a year. After every game, I reviewed the hand records and noted our result, and the top for the board, for every board where we had the option of bidding or passing a balanced 12 count. I entered them into a spreadsheet.

 

On the hands that I passed we averaged 55%. On the hands where partner opened we averaged 38%.

 

Does anybody else have any statistics?

[gszes]

sigh no and do not expect much sympathy from the "its just too stinking boring to pass crowd". I do not see the benefits. I do not wish to encourage a weak partner to bid 2s I have ZERO quick tricks (aces) or SPOTS. I would not even game force opposite a 3rd seat opener so all in all silence seems to be the best choice OH and did I mention no good lead directing bid? let me see what else can I complain about:) I open balanced 12 counts a lot but not these boring aimless 12 counts.

[Cyberyeti]

sigh no and do not expect much sympathy from the "its just too stinking boring to pass crowd". I do not see the benefits. I do not wish to encourage a weak partner to bid 2s I have ZERO quick tricks (aces) or SPOTS. I would not even game force opposite a 3rd seat opener so all in all silence seems to be the best choice OH and did I mention no good lead directing bid? let me see what else can I complain about:) I open balanced 12 counts a lot but not these boring aimless 12 counts.

 

1N in first seat for me, has the advantage that often enough, you will play 1N=/-1 vs 2♠= where they don't want to overcall 2♠ in second seat, but would overcall 1♠ over 1m.

 

And Gordon's auction is the reason you open 1♦ rather than 1♣.

[phoenixmj]

1N in first seat for me, has the advantage that often enough, you will play 1N=/-1 vs 2♠= where they don't want to overcall 2♠ in second seat, but would overcall 1♠ over 1m.

 

And Gordon's auction is the reason you open 1♦ rather than 1♣.

 

Curious - I am guessing you play a weak 1

N? I know this seems to be common in Canada - wonder if also true in UK?

[Cyberyeti]

Curious - I am guessing you play a weak 2N? I know this seems to be common in Canada - wonder if also true in UK?

 

Weak 2N ? I play a weak 1N and yes this was very common here, getting a bit less common but still very common at lower levels.

 

It is known as the lowest preempt in the book with good reason.

[sultro]

Playing weak NT, this isn't even close, yes always. Playing strong nt, I like my bid less, but I'm still popping it open a diamond. It's a little better if we are at least playing Spiral. Regular partner will never believe I have this much strength if I have passed.

[Winstonm]

I would open but I wouldn't like it.

[argong1]

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ew is vulnerable

ns is not vulnerable

 

definitely, there is 12 points and normal distribution, and most people open like that