phoenixmj Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I don't think the fourth best heart is so bad at all. Let's give your partner the following hand: xx AJxx AQx Axxx Let's give declarer the Kd and dummy the Kx H, with declarer having a stiff H. Now you lead a H, and partner plays the J and Ah. Let's say declarer ruffs the second heart (perhaps not best). Now if he tries to establish a minor suit first, your partner can duck and give you a third round ruff. And if declarer draws trump, your side will end up with control If declarer pitches a minor card at trick two, you just got a trick you wouldn't have gotten if you had led a minor card. As I said, any of the four suits could easily have been right. If the lead was the problem, you just got unlucky. I wonder, however, if the bidding went the same way at all tables. I also wonder what the entire hand was; perhaps there was something you overlooked. I can't imagine 2/3 of expert players leading a diamond (there's nothing wrong with a d lead, but with no standout lead, there's nothing especially right about it, either). Cheers,mike Definitely not critical of partner for the lead - just wondering how we can improve our chances. 4th best is a standard lead for us. I also wonder about the bidding. At our table, when the overcall of 2S was made, there was no alert and we asked if it was natural. We were told yes. My guess is at other tables interference would have consisted of a convention. As the NT opener, I had a minimum 15 points. When partner passed and they upped the ante, I decided to pass rather than compete. As it turns out, we cannot make anything above 2 spades let alone 3. I had no chance to provide any clues to partner about the lead. At other tables there may have been more clues. I was also very surprised that "so many of the people playing" got it right and it made me think it was not just blind luck. Definitely the bidding might have given clues at other tables. Lots of Canadians there and they play a weak NT - so their open would be different. That might account for about 1/3 of the room at that point. 4th best is a standard lead for us - but reading here I do see that distribution should be considered more in making the lead. I lost the handout with all of the hands, but my recollection is that dummy came down showing a singleton heart - ace. So - the heart lead did not work well. As the opening NT bidder, I had the ace and the queen of diamonds - and the king came down in dummy - so a diamond lead is clearly a winner. I think your point about the bidding is well taken - as I found it unusual that the bid was 2 spades natural rather than a conventional bid. A conventional bid as single suited might have provided an opportunity to signal a diamond lead. Anyway - thanks for all of the info. Lots to chew on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Sirs,we do not bid 2C over West s 1D with the given hand as there are 9 losers and just a five card broken suit.However as South we will certainly make a TOD with the given hand over Easts 1H.to indicate a four card spade suit and tolerance for clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickdey55 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 [hv=pc=n&e=s973hq98743dt4ct3&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=1n2sp3sppp]133|200|2 spades was natural[/hv]Leading a trump here makes sense. with a six card heart suit one defender is going to be ruffing hearts, probably the three spade bidder who has no reason to raise otherwise. Cut off that ruffing power. What does east lead against 3 spades and any reasoning? This was MPs. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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