hrothgar Posted June 29, 2019 Report Share Posted June 29, 2019 If BBO players were as good as they claim (on average) how is it possible for me to win ACBL duplicate tourneys without cheating the bots. Even a blind pig can find an acorn once and a while, especially in a 12 board tournament Case in point https://www.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands.php?tourney=134-1561765681-&username=hrothgar&from_login=1&from_login=0Most of my results aren't nearly this good, but on occasions the card gods smile, your screw up don't cost you and sometimes even pay off You might consider playing in the ACBL Online NABC Tournament that is coming up in a couple weeks I think that you will find that placing here requires a lot more skill... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 "Says he is not one of the people to have attacked me personally (which you werent, except on a couple of occasions) and continues with a multi-sentence, multi paragraph, personal attack, insults and abuse, totaly uncalled from the so-called self-proclaimed top player you are."I don't think Mike attacked you ever.Mike H is a good player who has played internationally. He is one of the very few on this site that are knowledgeable and worth listening to. Hrothgar is another. You would do well to pay attention to what they have to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted July 1, 2019 Report Share Posted July 1, 2019 No that isn't really the point of my post at all (despite being related) although the penalty of a small error is much worse and terminal than MPs although they can be huge in MPs too. This is the beginners forum. What is it that the two forms of scoring test? Note my above example was 5-1 scores -12 compared to 4 which is very brutal, esesically when caused by dstraction rather than knowledge of the game, systems and ability to play the cards That would be a good discussion point :) And my example above was not related to bridge ability per sé but other aspects of the game - other than technical knowledge and skill. I'm also interested in its implications for the field of computer bridge and robot design and training but thats another matter. The different scoring methods measure very different things. They each have different types of error and statistical error. Much design and analysis is based on the number of tricks rather than the scoring method although some take account of scoring method. But I wonder how much consideration there is of different error sources. But as I say my main point was the brutality of the IMPs form and what it really tests when a small error leading to a misbid and 5-1 scores so much worse than 4 when the player knew that 4 was the correct contract and it was so easy every player made the excat same number of tricks :) But I think really I was just trying to show the amount of concentration required at every step of (bidding) in IMPs and maybe (play) in MPs and how hard it is on the brain I think you are very much mistaken if you do not accept that the ability to concentrate and ignore distractions are both vital components of expert bridge play, regardless of form of scoring. I would suggest as a good read Bob Hamman's book: At the Table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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