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Board 1 from last BBO Forums Sunday Daylong:

 

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N and S deserve each other. Bidding 3 is horrible (shoudl bid 3), but passing 3 is just hilarious.

 

100% to N, 1500% to S.

 

I disagree. For N to bid 3D he must have about 7 so South is justified in passing. South must have 5C 4H or substantial extras. North should have bid 2N scramble or 3C.

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I disagree. For N to bid 3D he must have about 7 so South is justified in passing.

 

If N actually has anything like 7 decent diamonds don't you want to be in 3N? All parter needs for it to be virtually lockdown is the Q and may not even need that.

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I disagree. For N to bid 3D he must have about 7 so South is justified in passing. South must have 5C 4H or substantial extras. North should have bid 2N scramble or 3C.

 

As a reminder, North is a GIB and the descriptions says 4+ diamonds. You may think there is bridge logic that says ~7 diamonds, but GIB only has rules and those rules make no sense in many auctions, including this one.

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N and S deserve each other. Bidding 3 is horrible (shoudl bid 3), but passing 3 is just hilarious.

 

100% to N, 1500% to S.

 

When you play with GIB, sometimes you want to pass in an absolutely ridiculous contract if it is not doubled. On this hand, you could end up in 5 doubled or worse.

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nullve writes 'Board 1 from last BBO Forums Sunday Daylong'

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Nullve's calls seem OK . GIB forgot that South doubled East's 1 for T/O.. [/hv]

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If N actually has anything like 7 decent diamonds don't you want to be in 3N? All parter needs for it to be virtually lockdown is the Q and may not even need that.

Why are you bothering to write a post just to publicly announce that you cannot count to 9? 1 spade + 2 heart + 1 diamond + 4 club tricks = 8.

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I feel the GIB team may want to look at this particular bidding sequence.

 

One of the Souths doubled, and then bid 3 (presumably some sort of strong takeout)

 

The system explanation for the first DBL was identical to what nullve saw "3-5 ; 2- ; 3-4 ; 3-4 ; 12+ total points"

The system explanation for the 2nd round 3 said "Strong rebiddable ; 18+ total points"

 

I feel that either the second round 3 should have no default meaning in GIB system or should mean some sort of strong takeout.

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Because I expect to take 3 heart tricks with Qxx vs AKxx?

Ah ok so when you meant that it's cold opposite 7 decent diamonds and Q you meant that it's cold opposite 7 decent diamonds, Q, and Q? And you think that's a reasonable expectation in this auction?

Ok. Thank you for your valuable contributions to this thread.

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