Chillwell1 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Hi all! Me and my partner have just started playing weak NT with transfers on 1C. 1NT: 11-13 NV/ 14-16 V We decided that after 1C -1D/H we accept the transfer with 14-16 balanced, and bid 1NT with 17-19. However, after 1C - 1D and 2S from RHO, we have some problems describing our hands. We have on some level decided that (after 2S): Pass = 14-16 Double = 3 card support2NT = 17-193H = 4 card support, 11-13 What to do with, say, the weak unbalanced club hand? Bid 3C? Is this style playable or are we missing something? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 This shouldn't be a problem. it is exact situation as:1♣-(P)-1♥-(2♠)Preempt does cause problems but your methods should not suffer any extra problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 This shouldn't be a problem. it is exact situation as:1♣-(P)-1♥-(2♠)Preempt does cause problems but your methods should not suffer any extra problems.I agree, but to allow opener to differentiate between various strengths, one playssome form of Good-Bad 2NT.But opener already uses the 2NT bid to show a specific hands / ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 With a minimum with five clubs, you either make a support double or pass. With a minimum with six clubs, you might pass and then pull partner's double to 3♣. Of course, partner is not obliged to double, but since he assumes you have ostensibly a balanced 14-16, he will double quite aggressively, at least at matchpoints. Alternatively, play the 3♣ bid as wide-ranging, say 11-16. You can cuebid 3♠ with (17)18+ and six clubs, and with some rare balanced 18-19 hands that have no other options, sayxxxAxAXxAKxxx Hand with 4-card support will bid 3♥ with 14-16 balanced or 11-14 unbalanced. You will need to force to game with an unbalanced 15 count, then. If this is not acceptable, you will need to play 2NT as good/bad. But then you may need to allow the doubles to include balanced 17-18 hands without 3-card support. It is actually not standard to play support level above the 2-level of responder's suit. If you want to play support doubles here, you may consider how you respond to it. Normally, a minimum responder just rebids his suit if he has no good alternative, as a 4-3 fit at the 2-level is ok. Here, you may prefer to play 2NT by responder as artificial, or as "to play opposite 14-16 with a stopper", maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 I agree, but to allow opener to differentiate between various strengths, one playssome form of Good-Bad 2NT.But opener already uses the 2NT bid to show a specific hands / ranges.It's possible to play a non-forcing version of Good/bad 2N that includes 17-19 BAL w/ 2-3 H here. In more detail, something like 1♣-(P)-1♦-(2♠); ?: P = normal (when X would be takeout), does not deny 3 HX = takeout2N = "bad" hand with either 6+ C or 4+ H OR "17-19 BAL, 2-3 H"...P = would have passed 2N if it had shown "17-19 BAL, 2-3 H" unambiguously...3♣ = to play opposite the "bad" type with 2-H6+C, forcing to 3♦/♥ or game opposite "17-19 BAL"......P = the "bad" type with 2-H6+C......3♦ = "17-19 BAL" .........P = wanted to play 3♦ opposite "17-19 BAL".........3♥ = 5+ H, to play.........3♠ = 5+ H, FG.........(...)......3♥ = the "bad" type with 4+ H3♣ = "good" hand with 2-H6+C(...)3♥ = "good" hand with 4+ H(...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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