nullve Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 [hv=https://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?sn=nullve&s=SQJ9HT542DJ43CAK4&wn=Robot&w=S874HA8DKQ52CQT97&nn=nullve&n=SAT2HJ9DT986CJ653&en=Robot&e=SK653HKQ763DA7C82&d=n&v=o&b=1&a=P1H(Major%20suit%20opening%20--%205+%20%21H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points)P1N(Forcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%206+%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points)P2C(New%20suit%20--%203+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21H%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20total%20points)P2S(Impossible%20spade%20--%204+%20%21C%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-12%20total%20points%3B%20forcing%20to%203C)P3C(3+%20%21C%3B%205+%20%21H%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-13%20total%20points)P3D(4+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-12%20total%20points)P3S(4%20%21C%3B%204-%20%21D%3B%205+%20%21H%3B%204+%20%21S%3B%2011+%20HCP%3B%2012-13%20total%20points)P4C(4+%20%21C%3B%204+%20%21D%3B%202-%20%21H%3B%203-%20%21S%3B%2011-12%20total%20points)PPP]400|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 They were doing remarkably well without Flannery until that dumb 3♣ bid. [Edit: typo corrected] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Don't you mean "dumb 3♣" bid??IMO the auction should go 1h-1nt-2c-2s-2nt-all pass.And west really has no reason to bid after 3c, for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Don't you mean "dumb 3♣" bid??I did indeed, corrected thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DozyDom Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 This... isn't a flannery commercial. It's a commercial for learning how to bid in the system you're playing. I challenge anyone to tell me what 3C could possibly indicate about the hand. Alternatively, it's an advert for KI, which gets you playing in 2NT without risking being raised in clubs. Alternatively, it's an advert for literally any sensible system except 2/1, though that's a separate matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Alternatively, it's an advert for KI, which gets you playing in 2NT without risking being raised in clubs. Alternatively, it's an advert for literally any sensible system except 2/1, though that's a separate matter. Since 2/1 played rationally gets you to the exact same 2nt contract as other systems probably get you to, I don't see how this particular hand is an advert against 2/1. It's just an advert for having sensible continuations after the impossible 2S.If anything, it's an advertisement for semi-forcing NT, though of course that treatment will sometimes lose on different combination of hands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Tbh I don't really get why East doesn't pass 1N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Tbh I don't really get why East doesn't pass 1N1NT is forcing. West could have a number of hands that would make 1NT look silly. Basically any very weak hand with a 6-card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DozyDom Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Since 2/1 played rationally gets you to the exact same 2nt contract as other systems probably get you to, I don't see how this particular hand is an advert against 2/1. It's just an advert for having sensible continuations after the impossible 2S.If anything, it's an advertisement for semi-forcing NT, though of course that treatment will sometimes lose on different combination of hands.I was indeed thinking of systems that let you stay and relax in 1NT, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1NT is forcing. West could have a number of hands that would make 1NT look silly. Basically any very weak hand with a 6-card suit. I know what a forcing 1NT is. :) I think rebidding 2♣ on a 2 card suit will lead to many more silly contracts that passing 1N. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Advert for Modified Gazzilli, too :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Since 2/1 played rationally gets you to the exact same 2nt contract as other systems probably get you to, I don't see how this particular hand is an advert against 2/1. It's just an advert for having sensible continuations after the impossible 2S.If anything, it's an advertisement for semi-forcing NT, though of course that treatment will sometimes lose on different combination of hands.All that needs to be done is to rebid 2NT rather than that silly 3♣ and then it is passed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I know what a forcing 1NT is. :) I think rebidding 2♣ on a 2 card suit will lead to many more silly contracts that passing 1N.The other problem is rebidding with a normal 12 count when game seems quite unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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