P_Marlowe Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hi, I will give it a try, lets see where I end up, it may be possible that it is an auction the orginal poster may be possible to dublicate 1D - 1H (1)1NT (2) - 2C (3)2NT (4) - 3D (5)3H (6) - 4C (7)4NT (8) - 5S (8)5NT (9) - 6C (9)6H ... (10) - 7D (1) I dont see, why I should supress the 4 card heart suit(2) 15-19, 4 spades possible, the alternative would be 2NT showing 15/16+ and 6+ diamonds given the suit quality, selling the hand as bal. 15-19 is something I may consider at the table(3) relais, starting from +7HCP(4) 16/17, no 3 hearts, no 4 spades(5) diamond fit, SI(6) cue, a top honor (A or K) ... need to cross check with partner, lets say it is(7) cue, denies spade control(8) RKCB, 2KC+Q(9) specific King Ask, club king(10) asking for hear king, if partner does not have it, you can check out in 6NT but I have to admit, after 6C, i.e. the last round of bidding, I am in unchartered territority. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: I have just seen the remark, that mentions spiral scans, we dont, we only play specific king ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 Hi, I will give it a try, lets see where I end up, it may be possible that it is an auction the orginal poster may be possible to dublicate 1D - 1H (1)1NT (2) - 2C (3)2NT (4) - 3D (5)3H (6) - 4C (7)4NT (8) - 5S (8)5NT (9) - 6C (9)6H ... (10) - 7D (1) I dont see, why I should supress the 4 card heart suit(2) 15-19, 4 spades possible, the alternative would be 2NT showing 15/16+ and 6+ diamonds given the suit quality, selling the hand as bal. 15-19 is something I may consider at the table(3) relais, starting from +7HCP(4) 16/17, no 3 hearts, no 4 spades(5) diamond fit, SI(6) cue, a top honor (A or K) ... need to cross check with partner, lets say it is(7) cue, denies spade control(8) RKCB, 2KC+Q(9) specific King Ask, club king(10) asking for hear king, if partner does not have it, you can check out in 6NT but I have to admit, after 6C, i.e. the last round of bidding, I am in unchartered territority. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: I have just seen the remark, that mentions spiral scans, we dont, we only play specific king ask. We actually don't "suppress" the heart suit, our structure for inverted minors can deal with 4Ms, it's just that once opener denies one, there's no point in mentioning it. Our response to 2♣ would be 3♦ and now responder would only be showing 3 due to not having had the inverted raise. I see no mention of the essential ♣Q in your auction (it's essential because the grand is close to ZP opposite the 2443 version of the actual hand without it, and you have no way of knowing which is held). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 We actually don't "suppress" the heart suit, our structure for inverted minors can deal with 4Ms, it's just that once opener denies one, there's no point in mentioning it. Our response to 2♣ would be 3♦ and now responder would only be showing 3 due to not having had the inverted raise. I see no mention of the essential ♣Q in your auction (it's essential because the grand is close to ZP opposite the 2443 version of the actual hand without it, and you have no way of knowing which is held).The heart Queen would also be ok, North is asking, and he sees the heart doubleton, but as I mentioned,after 6C it becomes murky, and what you can find out between 6C ... and 6NT with spiral, I have no idea,but I do doubt, that it is enough.But if you play minorwood, which we dont, you gain the space I wasted in my auction when I jumped from 4C to 4NT. This add. space could be used in finding out about the heart honors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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