661_Pete Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 This gave me a bit of a dilemma.[hv=pc=n&s=shakjt87652d32cak&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=pp1s]133|200[/hv]Clearly rather too strong for a simple 4♥ overcall - I was wondering: could I possibly find partner with an Ace? Seeing as opponents would be likely to lead ♠, A♠ would be enough for the slam. We play Acol with weak jump overcalls, so 3♥ wasn't an option. Double? Even if partner shows ♦ I don't know if she has first- or second-round control. And there is a serious risk of a penalty pass - which I don't want! After a lot of thought I settled for the soft option of 4♥ - prepared to raise to 5♥ if the opponents bid 4♠ (they didn't). Just as well since partner had no aces and nothing in ♦. She was void in ♥ but the Q fell singleton, so I was happy enough with my 11 tricks. No-one else ventured the slam, so in the end this freak board was a flat board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardVector Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 I'd definitely want to be in at least 5♥ on this one. Looking at this got me wondering what a bid of 4♠ would mean? I would think it should promise a spade void at least, but would it also promise one good suit, or some 2 suiter? If the direct bid would show a 2 suiter, then I'd probably start with a double then bid 4♠ (if available), then 5♥. That way, partner would know I'm not sacrificing and bid the slam with a card that looks useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
661_Pete Posted December 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just been looking at this thread. Obviously I'm not as strong as any of those! But I wonder how 3♠ over 1♠ works - showing strength and a cue bid (not Michaels). What does partner respond with no controls? 3NT - then I bid 4♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 15, 2018 Report Share Posted December 15, 2018 [hv=pc=n&s=shakjt87652d32cak&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=pp1s]133|200|661_Pete' writes "This gave me a bit of a dilemma. Clearly rather too strong for a simple 4♥ overcall - I was wondering: could I possibly find partner with an Ace? Seeing as opponents would be likely to lead ♠, A♠ would be enough for the slam. We play Acol with weak jump overcalls, so 3♥ wasn't an option. Double? Even if partner shows ♦ I don't know if she has first- or second-round control. And there is a serious risk of a penalty pass - which I don't want! After a lot of thought I settled for the soft option of 4♥ - prepared to raise to 5♥ if the opponents bid 4♠ (they didn't). Just as well since partner had no aces and nothing in ♦. She was void in ♥ but the Q fell singleton, so I was happy enough with my 11 tricks.No-one else ventured the slam, so in the end this freak board was a flat board...] I wonder how 3♠ over 1♠ works - showing strength and a cue bid (not Michaels). What does partner respond with no controls? 3NT - then I bid 4♥?++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ IMO 661_Pete's 3♥ suggestion seems right. Many pairs agree that an immediate jump-cue overcall of a suit-opener shows a good suit, initially stopper-asking for 3N. e.g.after (1♠) 3♠ )Pass) ?- 3N = STOP in ♠.- 4♣ = P/C. No stop- 4♦ = Good hand.- 4M = NAT.Now 4♥ shows slam interest..[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullve Posted December 16, 2018 Report Share Posted December 16, 2018 We play Acol with weak jump overcalls, so 3♥ wasn't an option. Well, maybe this is the time to psyche a weak jump overcall in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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