Chamaco Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Hi all ! :) I know many players play a "thrump" ("THRee notrUMP") double over opps preempts in various situations. Under the thrump agrement, the double is primarily stop ask in the following sequences: 1x-(3y)-Dbl The double asks to bid 3NT with a stopper in the preemptor's suit, and is NOT looking for majors. I have read that some players have extended the use of the Thrump double even when our side does not open, and opps peempt. E.g.(3D)-X-(p)-? (3H)-X-(p)-? Under such agreement, now the main priority is NOT to show a major but to bid NT if possible ("Hamman's Law"?? :) ). Anyway, I am a little worried by this use of the Thrump double, and I'll try to explain with an example. Suppose bidding goes:(3H)-X-(p)-? you holdAKxx-432-Kxx-Jxx No stoper here, s 3Nt is not an option; but pard did not guarantee a spade fit with this double, so should you bid 4S even in a possible misfit with pard ?Or leave the double in and find out that a slam in spades was laydown ? Similar doubts arise in my mind in the sequences where opps preempt with 3C or 3D, pard doubles (not guaranteeing a major), and we lack a stopper but we have 4-2 in the majors.E.g. (3D)-X-(p)-? you holdQxxx-32-432-AKxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Well I'm not a practitioner of thrump doubles. But it seems like if partner wants you to bid 3NT with just a stopper (and nothing else) it should promise a pretty good hand. It seems reasonable to suggest that the auction cannot end in 3 of a major. So with both the example hands, you bid 3♠ and it's forcing one round. Partner will raise to game with four spades (or maybe even with three and no better action), or bid his long minor or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 Why don't you just bid 3NT and think about stoppers later? This world-wide paranoia about stoppers has no justification because people nowadays open 3x on jack-high suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 i remember watching Crane and Anderson they would just bid 3NT and say now that you opened that peice of cheese 3 what are you gonna do now ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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