kuhchung Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Late, but just double, hoping to survive. Correct to 4S in case the worst happens and hope to survive that one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardVector Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 HardVector, you've missed Cyberyeti's point about three times in a row :) He was not referring to the takeout double as responsive. If you play that partner's responsive double - 1♠-(3♥)-X-(4♥)-X - guarantees equal length in the minors, then you'll often be playing a poor 5♦ whenever partner does *not* have equal length in the minors. The point was that the takeout double works a lot better if the responsive double isn't so strictly defined.If partner doesn't have a responsive double, why are they making a responsive double? Is partner forced to take some action? If partner has nothing to say, then pass works. You've shown values, you aren't going to sell out when they are obviously sacrificing, are you? I'm just stating what the responsive double should show. If your partners lie to you, I suggest getting new partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 24, 2018 Report Share Posted October 24, 2018 If partner doesn't have a responsive double, why are they making a responsive double? Is partner forced to take some action? If partner has nothing to say, then pass works. You've shown values, you aren't going to sell out when they are obviously sacrificing, are you? I'm just stating what the responsive double should show. If your partners lie to you, I suggest getting new partners. OK, the auction's gone 1♠-3♥-X-4♥ You hold a 5242/5143 hand, by your rules you can't make a responsive double, so what do you do ? and does it matter whether you have 11 points or 15 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 You're saying 4!C is committal but placing 4!S above it? That seems like a bit of a bizarre thought process. If I bid 4!C, I should be easily able to play in 4!S when partner doesn't have club support. If I bid 4!S, how am I going to play in a 9-card club fit rather than a 7-card spade fit? After 3!S, are you suggesting p's 3NT rebid is an offer to play? It looks like a slam try of some sort to me.I concede DozyDom's first point. Not so sure about his second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phntmshark Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 I'm doubling here, and I'll bid 4S over 4D, but with Jx of H and a club suit that doesn't need too much help from partner to run, there's too much chance we belong in 3NT for me to unilaterally go to the 4 level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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