kuhchung Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 Robot alerts 3C as 7+C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 You can lose 2♠ and a ♥ so I'm playing for a 3-2 trump split, and even though it's anti-positional, ruffing a ♣ on trick two - which seems so routine given the bidding - opens you up to an overruff if you lose a ♠ finesse, so I'm entering dummy in ♦ by leading the ♦ 2 (blocking the suit) and then running the ♠J. Does that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 At this vulnerability I don't think East has more than his KQ(J)xxxx of clubs. I can't ruff 2 clubs without an over-ruff. I think I have to ruff a club and pitch a club while holding my major suit losers to no more than 3 - without losing control. I am placing LHO with something like x, xxx, xx, KQ(J)xxxx. Hopefully, the spade is the 8 or singleton Q. My first thought is to win the club ace and lead a low spade. If it turns out I have 2 spade losers, I will finesse against the jack of hearts, which is about all LHO should have left in his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 I guess East has probably 7 clubs for his bid and West the heart ace.The play gets complicated because there are many scenarios. East most likely distribution is 7♣321. A shortage is only slightly more likely in spades as in either red suit and equally likely in either of them. Therefor I see no point in trying to reach dummy, which might open the deal to a defensive cross ruff Win the club ace and play a low spade from hand. Case 1: East wins with a spade honor. If East plays a second club, ruff high and run the spade ten assuming West follows. This looses only if East has KQx in spades and East gets a heart ruff or possibly when he plays back a third spade and West has the heart jack. Seems unlikely from the bidding. You should be able to mange 4 spades with West If East plays a heart and gets heart ruff. Take a spade finesse against West playing for divided honors. Case 2. West wins with a spade honor. If West returns a club, ruff and play spade to the ace, assuming West follows. Whether East follows or not ruff the remaining club high.There is no problem if trumps are 3-2 or if West overruffs.If West has 4 spades and does not over-ruff, play him to hold at least 3 diamonds. Play 3 rounds of diamonds ending in dummy and then play a heart to the king. (The assumption is that West has the ace of hearts) If West wins he will have to return a red suit or trumps and West gets only 2 trumps and the heart ace. If the heart king wins play your last diamond. If West ruffs low you overruff and end-play him in trumps. If he does not ruff you exit in the 3 card ending with a heart for a trump trick If West gives East a red suit ruff (say heart ace, heart ruff) you will need to guess who has the remaining spade honor. Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dokoko Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 ...Case 1: East wins with a spade honor. If East plays a second club, ruff high and run the spade ten assuming West follows. This looses only if East has KQx in spades and East gets a heart ruff or possibly when he plays back a third spade and West has the heart jack. ...Rainer Herrmann What about West starting with ♠853 and ruffing the club return when the trump finesse loses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP7601 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I guess East has probably 7 clubs for his bid and West the heart ace.The play gets complicated because there are many scenarios. East most likely distribution is 7♣321. A shortage is only slightly more likely in spades as in either red suit and equally likely in either of them. Therefor I see no point in trying to reach dummy, which might open the deal to a defensive cross ruff I think East would have led a side suit singleton if he had one.So he is likely to be short in trumps, if he is indeed 7321. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 What about West starting with ♠853 and ruffing the club return when the trump finesse loses?Correct this is another losing case I can not cater for. You could ruff the second club low, but this might lose to 8 clubs with East, so I think it is still better to ruff the second club high. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think East would have led a side suit singleton if he had one.So he is likely to be short in trumps, if he is indeed 7321.This is not clear when East has a seven card suit headed by KQ or KQJ in clubs and a (likely) spade honor.Whatever, as far as I can see my suggested line of play handles all cases where East is short in trumps. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Its not easy to find a foolproof solution.I would have followed the line which has been already posted by "rhm" This play will be successfull in most of the "LIKELY"distributions of the trump suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhchung Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 To close the loop on this one, East has Qxx x xx KQxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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