wbartley Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 IMP game. Human South. [hv=pc=n&s=skjt53h94dq2c7654&w=sa6hakqjtdak86ct3&n=sq87h632dt9caqj92&e=s942h875dj7543ck8&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=ppp1hpp1s2d2sppdp3dppp]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Most experts don't like to open 2♣ on 2 suited hands, especially with only 8 clear winners and 3 sure losers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbartley Posted September 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Most experts don't like to open 2♣ on 2 suited hands, especially with only 8 clear winners and 3 sure losers. If your partner holds the queen of diamonds, you're probably cold for game. I would guess most experts would bid 2♣ with this hand. If it's easy to construct a hand for partner where 1♥ gets passed out that is laydown for game and you have a hand of great general strength, you should probably open 2♣. That's my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrecisionL Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 4-losers and a self-sufficient suit, open 2♣! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 East had every right to pass. Nor does West really need or justify 2C. I would bid 2nt despite those clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 West's hand is good enough to open 2♣ and rebid 2NT either through Kokish or directly, I feel, despite those poor ♣s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DozyDom Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 The E bot's pass of 2S seems like by far the worst bid in this sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 West's hand is good enough to open 2♣ and rebid 2NT either through Kokish or directly, I feel, despite those poor ♣s.You would put a 21 point 5422 through 2C-2NT rather than just 2NT? Not the way we play,with 1NT 15-17 and 2NT 20-21. Partner knows our strength and will find the 3-5 major fit if he's interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masse24 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 You would put a 21 point 5422 through 2C-2NT . . . 21? You're permitted to use more than fingers and toes: KnRPartner can still find the major fit if opened 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 much prefer 1H to 2C I think you're just wrong in your assumption that most experts would open 2C with this hand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 21? You're permitted to use more than fingers and toesSure, the hand is worth more than it's 21 HCP suggests, but if you bid it as 24 balanced then partner raising quantitatively to slam is going to be out a king or so. If partner is interested in hearts you still have time to show extra strength and spell out your controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Badger Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 much prefer 1H to 2C I think you're just wrong in your assumption that most experts would open 2C with this hand In 4th seat I'm opening 2♣ here. You need so little for game to be on. The only reason why West was allowed to bid again was due to South's - very dubious in my personal opinion - balance after his robot partner had passed in 1st seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Not good enough for opening 2♣, but I would like to open 2nt for such hand even with five-card major suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 IMO, if you open 2C with this hand you will wind up in too many bad slams - 2C bidding structures are the worst part of standard approach-forcing bidding. Unless willing to adopt a forcing club system, the only option is to understand and accept that every once and a while you will languish in 1 when game is a make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svengolly Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 GIB's handling of 2C openers is poor in general IMHO. You can have 9 playing tricks and 18 HCP and GIB will raise to an unmakeable NT slam because it "knows" you must have 21 HCP. And the positive NT response it seems to favor (more than any human would) often wrongsides or gets the contract to a weird place. To the OP's hand in question, my regular human pards and I would probably open it 2C. Maybe 2N. 8 tricks, 4 losers, good suit, 21 HCP. It's too strong for 1H. But then we'd have better methods or maybe wisdom for bidding after 2C than GIB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 21? You're permitted to use more than fingers and toes: KnR Yes, you need more than fingers and toes to evaluate a hand using K&R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 The GIB EW auction by both hands looks a little surreal to me. They probably end up in a lot of contracts like 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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