rg14 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 How does inverted minor suit raises work with1. 0 to 6 points2. 6 to 9 points3. 10 + points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramticket Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 A lot is down to partnership agreement. Suit length: We play four-card majors and for us a 1m-2m raise will only promise four-card support. This will be different in a five-card major system and your choice of minor suit opening when opening a short minor will have an impact on the suit length needed for an inverted raise. For us, 1m-3m also only promises four-card support, but in practice, responder will often have five. Strength: For us 1m-2m is a one-round force only and shows 11+ points (maybe 10+ with some shape). There are partnerships who play that 1m-2m is forcing to game and their strength requirements will need to be correspondingly higher. For us, 1m-3m can be 0-9 HCP but will usually be in the range 5-9 HCP. We would need some extra distribution to respond on fewer values. You really need to discuss your approach with your partner - you can use the bid in a pre-emptive way, but this gives partner a problem when holding a strong opening. Or you can keep the 1m-3m sequence as a narrower range, this is more constructive and helpful to partner, but less pre-emptive for the opps. It will depend on your partnership attitude to pre-emption. Majors: Most play that a 1m-2m and 1m-3m both deny a four-card major. Follow-ups: After 1m-2m, a new suit should suggest values in the suit (not necessarily a four-card suit) and probing for no trumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 We also play 4 card majors and a weak no trump, and play ours 9+ with 5 card support or 10+ with 4, and we CAN have a 4 card major. We use 2N and 3♦ as weaker 5 card raises (or 4 trumps and 5 of the other minor), with a 6-9 4 card raise you have to bid 1N. Over 1♣-2♣ we use 2♦ as an artificial better than minimum but not GF enquiryYou can do similar in diamonds, basically invert 2♥/2N but we don't. It makes a massive difference whether you open 1N weak or strong, as if you don't have to cope with a minimum balanced hand, it's much easier to accommodate more hand types, and 1♦-2♦-2N is natural and GF. In a strong notrump system, I think it's really difficult to allow inverted minors to be non GF AND have a 4 card major, you can do one or the other relatively simply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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