carmelbobc Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Please click this: https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZ8bB27ZtCujsuSXj4LmY1R48EwlOk8lTXoV To see what to me was an unfounded GIB pass of what it should have recognized as a takeout double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 cant see whole auction sometimes this may matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 GIB will always take a high level "takeout" double as showing lots of values (17+, say), so it isn't going to bid 5 over 5 when it expects to take several doubled uptricks. Indeed, it looks like 4♠ should be down 1 with NS not CLOSE to making anything at the 5 level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 GIB will always take a high level "takeout" double as showing lots of values (17+, say), so it isn't going to bid 5 over 5 when it expects to take several doubled uptricks.Yes and no. Yes, it takes it as showing values, but: a) Basic GIB makes the same pass, so it's not based on expecting lots of tricksb) The reason GIB passes (and also passes with the worst possible 0 count) is because every bid it can make promises 8 HCP for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgosrock Posted July 23, 2018 Report Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yes and no. Yes, it takes it as showing values, but: a) Basic GIB makes the same pass, so it's not based on expecting lots of tricksb) The reason GIB passes (and also passes with the worst possible 0 count) is because every bid it can make promises 8 HCP for some reason. sm, while vugraphing the big boys ran into logic for b) which was akin to "takeout only if positive" else pass. Thus there were constraints on take out doubler as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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