virgosrock Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 GUBBO cue bids showing support with less I think.What happened here? [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Cnniranjan5%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S357TQKH79D3JQKCT%2CSJH34QD56AC5678JA%2CS246AHTAD279TC29Q%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard 12%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor suit opening -- 3%2B %21C%3B 11-21 HCP%3B %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7COne over one -- 4%2B %21H%3B 6%2B total points %7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7C5%2B %21S%3B 7%2B HCP%3B 8-18 total points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7C3%2B %21S%3B 6-11 total points %7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpg%7C%7Cmc%7C10%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerriman Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 GUBBO cue bids showing support with less I think.What happened here?No, it doesn't. It has its bid as per the description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Arguably 6-11 is too wide a range for 2S though, and it's inconsistent with its cue range in other positions, like (1H)-1s-(p)-2H where it will cue with 10+.Range should probably be 6-bad 10.Also there's the issue of it probably devaluing the short ace a bit too much, and not giving some value for the 4th trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgosrock Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 No, it doesn't. It has its bid as per the description. Will keep track of this sm. i am quite sure i have seen cuebids with 10+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Also there's the issue of it probably devaluing the short ace a bit too much, and not giving some value for the 4th trump. Yes, West didn't make a support double or raise hearts, so South rates to have 3+ hearts and the doubleton heart should have almost full value. West could have made a support double but North didn't know that when deciding what to do. South could have made a game try but game tries with GIB are pretty haphazard and North is likely to bid a no play game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Arguably 6-11 is too wide a range for 2S though, and it's inconsistent with its cue range in other positions, like (1H)-1s-(p)-2H where it will cue with 10+.Range should probably be 6-bad 10.Also there's the issue of it probably devaluing the short ace a bit too much, and not giving some value for the 4th trump. Ten points balanced are not the type of hands you want to make a cuebid opposite a human overcall.Look yourself in the mirror, you know the crap you bid on, (Not talking about Stephen lol of course) The actual hand is a great hand, 5 losers with a likely source of side tricks.IMHO South dropped the ball by not making a game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Ten points balanced are not the type of hands you want to make a cuebid opposite a human overcall.Look yourself in the mirror, you know the crap you bid on, (Not talking about Stephen lol of course) The actual hand is a great hand, 5 losers with a likely source of side tricks.IMHO South dropped the ball by not making a game try. I agree South is worth another try, but North should make a cue bid. Not all 10 ct balanced are worth LR, but 2 bullets, 4 cd support and doubleton are. I bid 1s on all kinds of crap. But I bid on good hands also, and if partner has a LR if I opened the bidding I want to hear a cue bid not a single raise. If I overcalled on garbage, I'll just sign off in 2S and we'll play on our 18-22 HCP or whatever 8/9 cd fit at the 2 level, rarely a bad spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgosrock Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I agree South is worth another try, but North should make a cue bid. Not all 10 ct balanced are worth LR, but 2 bullets, 4 cd support and doubleton are. I bid 1s on all kinds of crap. But I bid on good hands also, and if partner has a LR if I opened the bidding I want to hear a cue bid not a single raise. If I overcalled on garbage, I'll just sign off in 2S and we'll play on our 18-22 HCP or whatever 8/9 cd fit at the 2 level, rarely a bad spot. 1. i have seen GUBBO's 2S in such cases. too wide ranging, mostly on crap.2. if i had faith in GUBBOs understanding of game tries I would bid on.3. if i had faith GUBBO would not arbitrarily take a sunny view, i would bid on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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