virgosrock Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 what was gibby hoping to achieve? generally declarer play quite good. [hv=http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer.html?lin=pn%7CVirgosRock%2Cmrrex%2CRobotN%2CRobotE%7Cst%7C%7Cmd%7C2S45AH2KAD26AC3789%2CS7TH47TD38TJKC56K%2CS89JH3568JQD5C2JA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard+8%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7CWeak+two+diamond+--+1-4+%21C%3B+6%2B+%21D%3B+1-3+%21%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4D%7Can%7CThe+Law%3A+10+trump+-%3E+game+support+--+4%2B+%21D%3B+4%2B+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cd%7Can%7C3%2B+%21C%3B+4%2B+%21H%3B+4%2B+%21S%3B+18%2B+total+points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B+%21H%3B+18-+total+points+%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpg%7C%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpg%7C%7C%0A%0A]399|300[/hv] vrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 what was gibby hoping to achieve? generally declarer play quite good. Yes, usually good except when it's not. B-) IMHO, making game contracts is highly overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted May 23, 2018 Report Share Posted May 23, 2018 Yes, usually good except when it's not. B-) IMHO, making game contracts is highly overrated. This hand illustrates a consistent and frustrating bug in the GIB play engine where random outside winners (♦A) are cashed for no apparent bridge reason. I might postulate that not drawing trump is due to grossly inadequate sampling simulations where East doesn't have 5 spades or possibly East has 5 spades to ♠KQ10 so it doesn't make any difference if trumps are drawn. I've said it before that GIB should be doing a suit distribution lookup and sample some hands with each distribution instead of making plays where some distributions are not even considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted May 24, 2018 Report Share Posted May 24, 2018 I don't know if the DA is crazy, perhaps it is reasonable plan to eliminate diamonds if hearts are 2-2 then lead a club and try to endplay east in some fashion? The actual line does seems crazy though, like it doesn't think doubleton spade T is possible, agree possible way too small sample deals analyzed. One big problem is the single dummy engine doesn't kick in until trick 3 or possibly later depending on settings (or never if basic GIB), so first couple tricks often kind of random like it doesn't have a real plan for what it is going to do, because essentially it doesn't really have a plan yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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