jammen Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 We miss our small slam in ♥ or 6♣ to defend a spade partial.[hv=pc=n&s=st84hakqtdktcq975&w=skj932h76dqj8542c&n=sh9842da9cat86432&e=saq765hj53d763ckj&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=1n2s2n3sppp]399|300[/hv] Of course I upgraded my 1nt (1♥second choice), 2♠Cappelletti spades & minor, 2nt Lebensol forces 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 It is very common for Gib to make this type of underbid.Gib has 7 card suit 2 aces and a void, what kind of 1NT does gib need to be close to slam?Not much Gib undervalues long suits.Have seen worse with 8 cards suits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 basic or advanced bot? I feel like this is more likely with basic bot, it probably has bad definitions for what 4c/5c should now mean, and doesn't have sims turned on that should tell it that the extreme shape makes bidding on a good gamble even though it probably doesn't meet the supposed point requirement for those bids. My old PC GIB gets itself to 5c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammen Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 How do I tell if it is a basic or advanced bot? I was playing Bridge 4 (set of 4 deals, leaderboard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnu Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 How do I tell if it is a basic or advanced bot? I was playing Bridge 4 (set of 4 deals, leaderboard). In general, anything free uses the basic bots. Anything on a pay per tournament basis is an advanced bot. If you are renting bots, you rent either a basic or an advanced bot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescetom Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 It is very common for Gib to make this type of underbid.Not just an underbid but a misbid: no trace of a stopper in ♠ and no attempt to find fit in ♥ or ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virgosrock Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 basic or advanced bot? I feel like this is more likely with basic bot, it probably has bad definitions for what 4c/5c should now mean, and doesn't have sims turned on that should tell it that the extreme shape makes bidding on a good gamble even though it probably doesn't meet the supposed point requirement for those bids. My old PC GIB gets itself to 5c. what was the bidding sequence for your old PC GIB thanks vrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Not just an underbid but a misbid: no trace of a stopper in ♠ and no attempt to find fit in ♥ or ♣. It's arguably an underbid, but not a misbid. Original poster doesn't have the annotations; 2nt is lebensohl, it is attempting to play a club partial. It doesn't show a stopper in spades (if not followed by 3nt/3s) and forces to 3c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 what was the bidding sequence for your old PC GIB It likes 3c directly, forcing, bypassing leb. Even if I force leb it will try 5c next time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammen Posted April 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 It's arguably an underbid, but not a misbid. Original poster doesn't have the annotations; 2nt is lebensohl, it is attempting to play a club partial. It doesn't show a stopper in spades (if not followed by 3nt/3s) and forces to 3c.2nt lebonsohl is a transfer to clubs but says nothing about the club suit. The bot could have long ♦ or a variety of other hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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