lamford Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 [hv=pc=n&s=sq93hakq4daj64ca4&n=sat8762ht98d83c92&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2np3h(spades)p3sp4sppp]266|200[/hv]West leads the king of clubs against your normal game and East plays the seven, ostensibly showing an even number. Over to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I prefer to take the heart finesse for 4 tricks (if I need them) rather than relying only on a 33 split. With this thought I will win trick 1 and try a low spade toward the T. This play makes it possible to return to the spade A the second round (unless a 40 split is revealed) of the suit and ALWAYS know if 4 heart tricks are needed or not (and if a 33 split is needed or not so we can avoid a finesse when it is not necessary). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm just playing ace and a spade, playing for trumps to behave, and falling back on 3-3 hearts. That's 84% or so and hard to beat IMO. I looked at other lines looking for more chances in hearts but they seemed worse. e.g. finesse spades first round, or cash one round of spades and work on hearts if an honor didn't fall. I think you'll find that if spades don't behave, play for 3-3 spades is better than finesse hearts, because on large chunk of working H finesse the long spade going to ruff in before the heart trick set up to cash their diamond. And finding east with say both KJX and Jxxx(x), greater length in both suits is less likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamford Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm just playing ace and a spade, playing for trumps to behave, and falling back on 3-3 hearts. That's 84% or so and hard to beat IMO. I looked at other lines looking for more chances in hearts but they seemed worse. e.g. finesse spades first round, or cash one round of spades and work on hearts if an honor didn't fall. I think you'll find that if spades don't behave, play for 3-3 spades is better than finesse hearts, because on large chunk of working H finesse the long spade going to ruff in before the heart trick set up to cash their diamond. And finding east with say both KJX and Jxxx(x), greater length in both suits is less likely.I think in isolation ace and another is slightly better (78% compared with 76.5%). However, if RHO shows out on the second round, he will get a chance to signal a diamond, and if West has ♠ KJx he will find the diamond switch. I think running the queen or nine makes it harder for the defence. I think both lines allow you to play for 3-3 hearts and you will have no reason to take a heart finesse in practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 [hv=pc=n&s=sq93hakq4daj64ca4&n=sat8762ht98d83c92&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=2np3h(spades)p3sp4sppp]266|200|West leads the king of clubs against your normal game and East plays the seven, ostensibly showing an even number. Over to you.[/hv]I like Stephen Tu's line. Win ♣A. Cash ♠A.- If both defenders follow, then lead another ♠, hoping that ♠s behave or ♥s break 3-3.- If a defender shows out on ♠A, then cash ♥AK. - If RHO showed out on ♠A, then you need RHO to hold ♥J singleton or doubleton.- If LHO showed out on ♠A, then you need LHO to hold ♥J singleton or doubleton or ♥ to be 3-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick13 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I think in isolation ace and another is slightly better (78% compared with 76.5%). However, if RHO shows out on the second round, he will get a chance to signal a diamond, and if West has ♠ KJx he will find the diamond switch. I think running the queen or nine makes it harder for the defence. I think both lines allow you to play for 3-3 hearts and you will have no reason to take a heart finesse in practice. To my surprise, in isolation, low to the 9♠ is even better (81.35%). It picks up both 4-0 breaks (4.78% each) at the cost of J-Kxx (6.22%) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 To my surprise, in isolation, low to the 9♠ is even better (81.35%). It picks up both 4-0 breaks (4.78% each) at the cost of J-Kxx (6.22%) Suppose East follows and ♠9 loses to ♠J. If West follows low to the next ♠, declarer might go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 Suppose East follows and ♠9 loses to ♠J. If West follows low to the next ♠, declarer might go wrong. You will play low to the ace and lose to KJx on your left, just like if you had played ace then low. Trick is correct that you lose to 1 holding to gain to two when comparing low to the 9 vs ace then low if looking at the suit in a vacuum (obv not really relevant on this hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trick13 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 You will play low to the ace and lose to KJx on your left, just like if you had played ace then low. Trick is correct that you lose to 1 holding to gain to two when comparing low to the 9 vs ace then low if looking at the suit in a vacuum (obv not really relevant on this hand).Except that East played that low spade with such nonchalance. When I lead towards the A♠ later, I ask myself did he/could he/would he duck from ♠Kx? Nige1 is right. I could go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted March 29, 2018 Report Share Posted March 29, 2018 To my surprise, in isolation, low to the 9♠ is even better (81.35%). It picks up both 4-0 breaks (4.78% each) at the cost of J-Kxx (6.22%) Trick is correct that you lose to 1 holding to gain to two when comparing low to the 9 vs ace then low if looking at the suit in a vacuum (obv not really relevant on this hand).Should have gone to Specsavers Bridge CC Analyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 To my surprise, in isolation, low to the 9♠ is even better (81.35%). It picks up both 4-0 breaks (4.78% each) at the cost of J-Kxx (6.22%)How do you get to the dummy to lead low toward the 9? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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