Overcaller's free rebid after 2/1 advance and RHO noise

[zenbiddist]

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Experts: What do you think a minimum and maximum 2♠ rebid look like? Draw me some South hands please.

That decides the next question I guess - how much does North need to bid 3♣ here?

 

Thank you!

[fourdad]

S=6 spades and a near opener...perhaps up to 15 pts. w/ the wrong shape for an initial TOX.

 

N concern is a misfit. 3c is looking for NT and strongly denying spades and a heart stop. 10+ pts. We play 3C as forcing and w/o a heart stop N should be very cautious.

[miamijd]

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Experts: What do you think a minimum and maximum 2♠ rebid look like? Draw me some South hands please.

That decides the next question I guess - how much does North need to bid 3♣ here?

 

Thank you!

 

2S is 6+ good spades with an opener. Max would be just short of a X followed by 2S, so probably a bad 17 or so, although with 16-17 and a self-sufficient spade suit, opener would bid 3S (GF) or 4S, depending on the hand.

 

3C by North ought to be GF with 1- spades. Bidding 3C just because you are two-suited and don't like spades isn't a good idea without a good hand.

 

Cheers,

mike

[nekthen]

Prepared to be shouted down but....

3N ♥ stopper 13+

3♠ 2♠ no ♥ stopper 11 ish

3♥ GF no ♥ stopper if p bids 3♠ no ♥ stop either

3♦ 6+ NF

3♣ 5 5 minors NF

2N ♥ stopper 10-12

 

There may be an argument for agreeing 2N to be lebensohl style puppet to 3♣

[Phil]

Was 2D forcing? If yes, through what?

[helene_t]

If 2♦ is forcing and you play weak jump overcalls, there are not many hands that would make a nonforcing 2♠ bid here. But you probably require good quality for a jump overcall at these colours so it makes sense to bid 2♠ here with about 9-12 points, a bad 6-card spades (or maybe a very strong 5-card suit) and diamond tolerance. Here I would take 3♣ as nonforcing with 5-5 in the minors.

 

I 2♦ is not forcing it is probably better to play 2♠ here as nonforcing but forward looking. Just too strong for a WJO and just too weak for a force. Here I would take 3♣ as forcing.